final table spot

[citanul]

9 handed, we're at 1500/3000, with 750/1500 blinds, limit holdem,

hero has 9k, to his immediate left there are two players with 7k and under, then a guy with 15k, then the guy with 48k, then another guy with 5k, and the remaining players have between 10k and 15k i think.

utg open raises at this fairly tight final table. hero is utg+1 with AKo.

prizes are something very close to:

9: 480
8: 640
7: 800
6: 960
5: 1200
3: 1700
2: 2700
1: 4300

hero's play and plan for the rest of the hand?

c

[bawcerelli]

three bet and take it all the way and hope you've got the best.

[ace_in_the_hole]

I am assuming you are playing for the win, so I raise and hopefully isolate with position. You will only have 4500 left on the flop so you might just have to go to showdown. I just don't see folding this if you are playing for 1st.

[DarthIgnurnt]

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I am assuming you are playing for the win.

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Reraise will probably isolate. Bet when it checks to you on the flop. Vomit in your mouth if he checkraises, but at this point you're basically all-in anyway.

Crazy 1-table tournament [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[splashpot]

I would probably just re-raise and keep betting/raising until I'm all in.

[xJMPx]

I'll take a shot at this.

Your options:
-Fold
-Call
-Raise

Fold: you only have 6BBs remaining with the blinds coming up in two hands, so I don't think you're going to find a better hand to play, so I don't think folding is an option here.

Call: Calling will put 1/3 of your stack in the middle, committing you to the pot. You will be more likely to get into a multiway pot. AK is a good drawing hand, but your likely to miss the flop and be in a tough spot OOP.

Raise: Raising puts 1/2 of your stack in the middle, but at this tightish table will likely isolate you with UTG and have you in position.

So, I don't like folding here and because both calling and raising commit you to the pot, I would perfer a raise here to isolate and then be willing to put the rest in on remaining streets.

[The Yugoslavian]

I like assaulting the pot with bets/raises.

This is obviously hypothetical b/c we all know citanul couldn't make a final table of tiddlywinks, [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img].

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Yugoslav

[Scuba Chuck]

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utg open raises at this fairly tight final table. hero is utg+1 with AKo.

hero's play and plan for the rest of the hand?

c

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Fairly tight for an UTG raise 9 handed is something like what? 99+, AJs+? Is that too wide? I think it's important to decide if calling or raising here is best based on what range you think villain has here. Do you have any VPIP numbers? Do you have any VPIP numbers for this guy in this position?

Considering villain has 7k, he is likely committing his entire stack on this hand.

Anyhow, once you consider that against the range I used, we're only 53% against that range, I think you could advocate a call if you were confident that you wouldn't get called by anyone behind (except perhaps the BB). Is BB gonna play this tight? Will he fold most hands?

I think it's important to know BB's stack, and how he plays (if you know) in order to decide wether a call or raise is better here.

Anyhow, how are we going to play this postflop? I think that we are going to have a difficult time committing to this hand if we don't have 10 outs or more to improve if we whiff. If you completely whiff, are you the type of player who can call down with nothing? If your opponent has AJ+, can he bet the flop if he whiffs? How will he react by your just call vs a raise?

Ack, this is a difficult spot. You can't fold this hand though.

[citanul]

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Fairly tight for an UTG raise 9 handed is something like what? 99+, AJs+? Is that too wide? I think it's important to decide if calling or raising here is best based on what range you think villain has here. Do you have any VPIP numbers? Do you have any VPIP numbers for this guy in this position?

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table was fairly tight. utg had >7k. had probably 15k or 16k i guess i didn't put that above. utg is probably good enough to have considered the fact that the table had been playing ridiculously tight, and open his range up even farther than your range quoted. i don't have numbers like vpip, no, and the final table was only a couple dozen hands old.

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Considering villain has 7k, he is likely committing his entire stack on this hand.

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my bad, i don't think that i had said this somewhere, i said the guys to hero's left had shorter stacks.

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Anyhow, once you consider that against the range I used, we're only 53% against that range, I think you could advocate a call if you were confident that you wouldn't get called by anyone behind (except perhaps the BB). Is BB gonna play this tight? Will he fold most hands?

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i'm pretty sure bb is going to be folding this hand, without something big. the only player who will splash around at all is the big stack, and he hasn't even called a raise at the final table. he likes to play limped pots.

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I think it's important to know BB's stack, and how he plays (if you know) in order to decide wether a call or raise is better here.[/quote

i hooked that up.

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Anyhow, how are we going to play this postflop? I think that we are going to have a difficult time committing to this hand if we don't have 10 outs or more to improve if we whiff. If you completely whiff, are you the type of player who can call down with nothing? If your opponent has AJ+, can he bet the flop if he whiffs? How will he react by your just call vs a raise?

Ack, this is a difficult spot. You can't fold this hand though.

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yes, i'm the type of player who can continue on a blanks board. yes, my opponent i believe could fire on the flop having missed, but i think could give it up on the turn, even check folding on the turn, which is a major reason it might be good to have a full turn bet behind for that case. i think that he's more likely to fold to me on the flop if i decide to raise with air if i have enough chips behind to do more betting in the rest of the hand. it all depends on my feel of the situation. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] for instance if i call here and leave myself like 5500, i could call a bet on the flop to see if he bets the turn, have 4k behind, and possibly fold on the turn if i wanted to, having enough to possibly move up in prizes (not all that likely, but also, not all that likely i'd take this line). at this particular table i don't know if 3 betting gets rid of anyone that would not have been scared off by the original bet and call, particularly because i think that due to factors you asked about, the bb is unlikely to play.

and yes, this is a difficult spot, sorta.

c

[Scuba Chuck]

OK, than I think this is a call. Calling gives you more ammunition to play postflop, IMO.