Explain ND over Oregon ....

cokehead · #1 12-05-2005, 01:51 PM

ND is at a disadavantage because they because they dont have a conference tie in to the BCS, so without their automatic berth for being #6 or higher, they would have to be #1 or #2 to get an automatic berth, which really wouldnt be fair.

But this ND over Oregon crap should just stop now. If Oregon wants to bitch, they should bitch about FSU getting in over them. or WVU for that matter.

Please note that I don't think ND is truely at a disadvantage because they will almost always get picked if they are elligible, but this is why they get automatically picked when they are #6 or higher.

SomethingClever · #2 12-05-2005, 02:29 PM

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lol

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If Oregon wants to bitch, they should bitch about FSU getting in over them. or WVU for that matter.

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Will do.

#3 12-05-2005, 02:45 PM

It's actually not because ND isn't in a conference, it's that they are NOT in BCS conference. A top 6 team from a non-BCS conference gets an automatic bid. Hence the reason #6 Utah was in a BCS game last year and #5 Cal wasn't, which is basically the exact same situation as this year. So this might be a "Notre Dame Rule" but it benefits other teams as well.

Two years in a row a #6 team gets the auto bid while the #5 team didn't. Seems like a system that only something as idiotic as the BCS could come up with

#4 12-14-2005, 06:06 PM

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It's actually not because ND isn't in a conference, it's that they are NOT in BCS conference. A top 6 team from a non-BCS conference gets an automatic bid. Hence the reason #6 Utah was in a BCS game last year and #5 Cal wasn't, which is basically the exact same situation as this year. So this might be a "Notre Dame Rule" but it benefits other teams as well.

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The reason it's called the Notre Dame rule is this provision: (from BCS FAQ)

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At-large teams can earn guaranteed selection in the following ways (in order of preference):

1. Finish first or second in the BCS rankings.
2. Finish in the top six of the BCS standings as an independent team or team from a non-BCS conference. If a team besides Notre Dame qualifies in this manner, then the Irish would also automatically qualify by winning 9 non-exempt games or finishing in the top 10 in the BCS standings.
3. Be the highest rated at-large team remaining and finish either third or fourth in the BCS rankings. Only one team can automatically qualify under this provision.

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In other words, if Notre Dame had 9 wins last year, they would have bumped Texas merely because Utah qualified.

bottomset · #5 12-15-2005, 12:41 AM

anyone know why they then go and [censored] the #5 BCS team by making them play a non-ranked opponent??? but they manage to schedule #9 vs #10 each year

that really makes no sense to me

cokehead · #6 12-05-2005, 06:11 PM

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did you even read my post? or do you just like quoting parts to change the meaning?

WLVRYN · #7 12-05-2005, 03:06 PM

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If Oregon wants to bitch, they should bitch about FSU getting in over them. or WVU for that matter.

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If Oregon wants to bitch, they should stop scheduling Division I-AA teams and beat better competition (and dont tell me that FSU is great competition, because they lost to Louisana Tech last week). In one of the prior iterations of the BCS points system, teams would lose BCS points when scheduling I-AA teams for every loss that the I-AA team had. Considering that Montana had 4 losses, Oregon could have been below ND if that system were used.

Also considering that ND hasnt gotten BCS money in 5 years and Oregon gets some every year, I dont feel too bad about this at all.

ThaSaltCracka · #8 12-05-2005, 03:21 PM

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If Oregon wants to bitch, they should bitch about FSU getting in over them. or WVU for that matter.

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Also considering that ND hasnt gotten BCS money in 5 years and Oregon gets some every year, I dont feel too bad about this at all.

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bottomset · #9 12-05-2005, 04:28 PM

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Also considering that ND hasnt gotten BCS money in 5 years and Oregon gets some every year, I dont feel too bad about this at all.

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its not Oregon's fault that ND doesn't join the BigEast like they are in BB

Jack of Arcades · #10 12-05-2005, 05:14 PM

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If Oregon wants to bitch, they should bitch about FSU getting in over them. or WVU for that matter.

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If Oregon wants to bitch, they should stop scheduling Division I-AA teams and beat better competition (and dont tell me that FSU is great competition, because they lost to Louisana Tech last week). In one of the prior iterations of the BCS points system, teams would lose BCS points when scheduling I-AA teams for every loss that the I-AA team had. Considering that Montana had 4 losses, Oregon could have been below ND if that system were used.

Also considering that ND hasnt gotten BCS money in 5 years and Oregon gets some every year, I dont feel too bad about this at all.

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Um, it's not like Oregon had such a horribly weak schedule when you look at everybody else's schedule. It was harder than just about every SEC, Big East, Big 12, and ACC Schedule.