Easy River Value bet vs 54/33/1.4.... and Den?

MAxx · #1 07-26-2005, 11:32 PM

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (6 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, ....Hero does what with intension of what?

timprov · #2 07-26-2005, 11:39 PM

I think you hear from an ace before this. I don't see where the value is coming from, unless you figure he'll call you playing the board when you clearly aren't.

ggbman · #3 07-27-2005, 12:17 AM

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Hero does what with intension of what? 

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Checks with the intention of swearing if he missed a value bet.

#4 07-27-2005, 02:26 AM

I don't really know what I'm talking about (new to the forums), but it seems reasonable that he has an ace with a weak kicker?

Plus, if he has a 10 he might not raise you because he has the low end of the full house. I would bet hoping he has an ace, and fold if raised. If you check, he'll bet his 10 anyway or else check his ace. I like betting.

Comments for the noob?

maxpowers21 · #5 07-27-2005, 02:37 AM

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I don't really know what I'm talking about (new to the forums), but it seems reasonable that he has an ace with a weak kicker?

Plus, if he has a 10 he might not raise you because he has the low end of the full house. I would bet hoping he has an ace, and fold if raised. If you check, he'll bet his 10 anyway or else check his ace. I like betting.

Comments for the noob?

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I cant even fold this if raised on the river, it will be bluffed far to often here, with crazy retardo monkey hands.

Against a bad opponent I will Bet this river, so most of the time just value bet here.

Stack · #6 07-27-2005, 02:49 AM

If he filled up, he has to figure that Hero will check behind with an A on this board. I don't think he'll risk it to be checked through often. I bet/call to get value from an A or lower pocket pair and from a bluff raise.

unless you have better reads...

mscags · #7 07-27-2005, 03:12 AM

I bet and fold to a reraise after crying. I think there is a good chance that you are ahead. If he reraises you though I think it is a clear fold. I can't think of any hand you can beat here, unless he is known to make bluffs like this.

Stack · #8 07-27-2005, 03:18 AM

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I bet and fold to a reraise after crying. I think there is a good chance that you are ahead. If he reraises you though I think it is a clear fold. I can't think of any hand you can beat here, unless he is known to make bluffs like this.

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I can't fold here. I'm just not that good. 9 BBs. This board is way too bluff-inducing for a player who raises 33% of his hands preflop.

MAxx · #9 07-27-2005, 09:26 AM

Hero bets river w/ intension of calling reraise. I thought I'd seek value from his weak ace and I just thought that this guy was sufficiently crazy enough to bluff c/r river.

This time it worked out fine. Hero bets, villain calls with his A7o and MHIG.

hockey1 · #10 07-27-2005, 09:30 AM

This is an easy check. Not to be too harsh, but those advocating betting have a fundamental (and widely shared) misunderstanding of how to play the river.