Not capping w/ JJ...dunno why but...

[hockey1]

I smoothcall 3 bets with big pairs preflop HU at least as often as I cap them. Not only do I think it allows me to extract more value from the hand, but it has great meta-game advantages as well.

[ike]

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I smoothcall 3 bets with big pairs preflop HU at least as often as I cap them. Not only do I think it allows me to extract more value from the hand, but it has great meta-game advantages as well.

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Yay. I'm not alone.

[xniNja]

I almost always call in that spot with JJ unless I think my opponent is very weak and not only do I have him dominated, but my cap won't lose later pot equity. When I call, I'm hoping to spike a jack... or see a lowball flop hoping my opponent 3-bet AK.

With JJ you can't be a large favorite to almost anything he'd 3-bet you with...

Note to all cappers: 20/14/1.79 probably is pretty solid... Believe me if you raise UTG and I 3-bet you, I've got JJ beat & most people with those or better stats probably do too.

[DcifrThs]

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Believe me if you raise UTG and I 3-bet you, I've got JJ beat & most people with those or better stats probably do too.

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then you hare simply too tight.

you would have 83% of my UTG raising hands beat if you 3bet me w/ JJ.

-Barron

[DcifrThs]

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Why the difference between this section (where Sklansky prescribes a more passive line), and the aggressive approach advocated in this thread?

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DS wrote that for games before the internet. meaning way way more passive overall play.

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Also, why is this situation a definite flop/turn raise, and not a way ahead/behind call down situation?


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why on earth would i want AK to get a free card. lower 3betting pairs may call me down anyways since the board was 2tone. also, since i DO raise AJs here i would like to see if he folds, which i want him to, and which he did.

-Barron

[Senor Choppy]

He has a PFR of 14. He's 3-betting with a lot of hands that are crushed by JJ.

[DcifrThs]

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He has a PFR of 14. He's 3-betting with a lot of hands that are crushed by JJ.

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is it really that high....lemme go check the ol PT database...unless you datamined the 1/2 game, in which case you're clearly right...

double check: 12.81!!! so HA 10.21% from UTG though so if you are only 3betting me w/ JJ or better, haha on you.

-Barron

[Senor Choppy]

Talking about your opponent in this hand.

You're too much of a rock to 3-bet with anything but aces [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[ike]

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You're too much of a rock to 3-bet with anything but aces [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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Agree. I folded KK from the BB to barron's raise first in from the button yesterday. It was clearly correct.

[mach3]

I routinely do this in higher limit shorthanded games where people go bonkers w/ A-high and top pair. I especially like it on the button when a blind 3 bets you thinking you are stealing w/ garbage.