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Old 09-08-2005, 03:50 PM
hakeem hakeem is offline
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Default AQo Party $10/20 hand

This has sparked some discussion among friends, thoughts welcome:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

UTG ($2273.50)
UTG+1 ($2015)
MP1 ($1811)
MP2 ($2007)
CO ($1963)
Hero ($2276.50)
SB ($1860)
BB ($1980)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $75, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($180) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $160</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $400</font>, MP1 calls $240.

Turn: ($980) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $350</font>, MP1 goes allin for $1336, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ????</font>
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Old 09-08-2005, 03:52 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: AQo Party $10/20 hand

fold preflop.
check turn.
fold turn.
you are dead.
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Old 09-08-2005, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: AQo Party $10/20 hand

you have to check that turn. as played, fold.
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Old 09-08-2005, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: AQo Party $10/20 hand

Fold preflop? Are you kidding me?

I agree w/ the rest of what you said though; definitely check behind on the turn, and as OP played it, I think it's a pretty standard fold, as he's likely drawing pretty thin . . .
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Old 09-08-2005, 04:55 PM
ObnxNole ObnxNole is offline
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Default Re: AQo Party $10/20 hand

Villian does not have a flush. My guess is two pair something like q 10 without a spade. He doesn't want u to catch a free spade or higher 2 pair. FOLD.
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Old 09-08-2005, 04:57 PM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: AQo Party $10/20 hand

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Villian does not have a flush. My guess is two pair something like q 10 without a spade. He doesn't want u to catch a free spade or higher 2 pair. FOLD.

[/ QUOTE ]youre gonna put him on effing QT?!
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Old 09-08-2005, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: AQo Party $10/20 hand

lol
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Old 09-08-2005, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: AQo Party $10/20 hand

I think this is a fold preflop as well - I hate unsuited high cards that don't equal AK. You better know your opponent's MP opening range to call here (and how he plays postflop).
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Old 09-08-2005, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: AQo Party $10/20 hand

In my opinion, your play on the turn here was absolutely horrendous. Getting CR'ed here is a disaster. If Villain has a set or a low flush (both or which are possible), you just gave away your chance to draw to the remaining spades. Just check behind.

If you decide to bet (which is a bad idea), make it a real one, not $350 into a $980 dollar pot. You probably are behind and you have no chance of causing a better hand to fold with that bet.

This turn bet was so weak that we can't absolutely rule out the possiblity of a bluff CR with something like J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Tx.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: AQo Party $10/20 hand

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fold preflop.

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Fold preflop? Are you kidding me?

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I'm a lurker by nature. It's just my style. But can't you fellas at least agree that the above decision is read/player dependent.
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