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Old 11-24-2005, 03:44 PM
Gugel Gugel is offline
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Default Fold or Push: A Tough Decision

The BB is a maniac.
Seat2 plays ABC poker.

Seat2 $357.30 )
Gugel $676.65 )
BB $518.20 )
Dealt to Gugel [ 8d 7d ] in the SB
Seat2 makes it 8.
Folds to me.
Gugel calls [$6].
BB raises [$16].
Seat2 calls [$12].
Gugel calls [$12].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 5d, Jd ]
Gugel checks.
BB bets [$70].
Seat2 calls [$70].
Gugel folds.

Seat2 smooth calling an overbet got me scared of a higher flush draw/set, hence, the fold.

Anyway, what do people think of a push here?
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Old 11-24-2005, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: Fold or Push: A Tough Decision

Bump.
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Old 11-24-2005, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Fold or Push: A Tough Decision

i've been avoiding lots of high variance plays especially if it probably doesn't increase my win rate much over the long term. i'd need more of a read on seat2 and bb's hand ranges for calling the flop before i bother to contemplate a push. also fold preflop and try to sit on the other side of the maniac.
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: Fold or Push: A Tough Decision

This is a 6 max hand FWIW.

The hero here has a LOT of equity in this spot. The only disastrous situation would be to push into a set AND higher flush draw.
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: Fold or Push: A Tough Decision

put seat2 on a hand range then we can discuss the merits of a push.
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Fold or Push: A Tough Decision

push, call, fold in that order.
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Old 11-24-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Fold or Push: A Tough Decision

i generally play the 7d8d for flopped SF value only, so i muck this 1 pretty fast.
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