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Old 10-25-2005, 05:19 PM
Mempho Mempho is offline
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Default If Belief in God is +EV

, actually ifinately +EV, and all you have to do to be saved is to pray for salvation with sincerity, why don't more people do it?

They could do it in their own homes with noone watching or knowing about the act....therefore, there would be no embarassment. They could stand up and continue on with whatever they were doing at the time since that is not a prerequisite for requesting salvation.

If they don't believe in God anyway, why would this simple request change things. They could simply open their minds and choose to believe in God long enough to pray sincerely.

If God does not exist, nothing about their life will change anyway, correct?

If God does exist, and starts to create wonderous things in the requestor's life, he or she has just made more than all of the money in the world.

It seems to me that if one can't lose, then a person's refusal says something else entirely....What does it say?

***EDIT*** Apparently, Pascal's Wager is covered everyday. I did not intend to make a repetitive post here, so, my apologies***
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: If Belief in God is +EV

cos its not +ev as discussed many times.

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Old 10-25-2005, 05:24 PM
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, actually ifinately +EV, and all you have to do to be saved is to pray for salvation with sincerity, why don't more people do it?

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Easy peasy....cos you can't choose what you believe in. Try and believe the moon is made of cheese for 5 mins..you can't do it. If i give you £5 to do it and so it is +ev to do it...you still can't do it. And that is why.
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:27 PM
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actually ifinately +EV, and all you have to do to be saved is to pray for salvation with sincerity, why don't more people do it?


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It's becase honest people can't "pray with sincerity" to a god in which they do not believe.

edit: damn, you guys are quick.
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:27 PM
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cos its not +ev as discussed many times.

chez

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A variation of Pascal's Wager seems to pop up nearly every day in here.
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:31 PM
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They keep thinking if they slightly rephrase it we might finally 'get' it.
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:37 PM
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cos its not +ev as discussed many times.

chez

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A variation of Pascal's Wager seems to pop up nearly every day in here.

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My greatest apologies. I normally post about poker on the other boards but I got sucked in here today. I did not mean to make a repetitive post.
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:46 PM
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cos its not +ev as discussed many times.

chez

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A variation of Pascal's Wager seems to pop up nearly every day in here.

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My greatest apologies. I normally post about poker on the other boards but I got sucked in here today. I did not mean to make a repetitive post.

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Not a problem really. I just find it interesting that the same argument is brought up nearly every day by theists when it is not even a very good argument to begin with.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: If Belief in God is +EV

What if YOU chose the wrong religion and it turns out Allah is the God you should be praying to? So every night after you're finished praying to the Christian God, you better throw in some prayers to Allah just to be safe. While you're at it, there are other religions and Gods you might as well hedge your bets with.

There are very good reasons not to get bogged down in unfounded beliefs.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:47 PM
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What if YOU chose the wrong religion and it turns out Allah is the God you should be praying to? So every night after you're finished praying to your Christian God, you better throw in some prayers to Allah just to be safe. While you're at it, there are other religions and Gods you might as well hedge your bets with.

There are very good reasons not to get bogged down in unfounded beliefs.

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Lestat, the only problem is that most religions require you to follow their religion exclusively. One of the Ten Commandments forbode this under the law, so this would not be possible.
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