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Old 10-12-2005, 01:12 PM
AceHiStation AceHiStation is offline
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Default Party 3/6: Standard QQ hand

No reads on villain except that he most likely reads me as beeing very LAGgy... I have been picking up several small pots and have raised his blind before, and took down a small pot when he limped in BB to my raise and folded to continuation bet. I'm just curious as to whether anyone considers laying down QQ on this flop or if I should have played it differently.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $57</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $40.

Flop: ($126) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $105</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $275</font>, SB calls $303.75 (All-In), Hero calls $133.75.
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6: Standard QQ hand

Well this this is pretty typical of my cash game threads to not receive much attention. Villain ended up having JJ and my hand was good. But I thought a bit about this hand and decided he would play JJ-AA all the same as he did this hand. I had no idea if I was good putting the money in but had to see his big hand. Seeing as though there are 6 combinations of AA, 6 combinations of KK, 1 combination of QQ, and 6 combinations of JJ... I'm ahead 6/19, chop 1/19, and behind 12/19 times. My question is do you see the position I got myself into as -EV or do you just payoff the better hand in this spot?
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6: Standard QQ hand

if you have plans on laying down QQ on that flop, your plan should be to fold preflop.
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6: Standard QQ hand

I guess as I started typing this post and explaining my image... it made this an easy decision... if he has AA/KK/TT, he's getting paid off
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6: Standard QQ hand

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if he has AA/KK/TT, he's getting paid off

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so you beat one hand, tie one hand, and lose to three hands. sounds +ev to me.
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Old 10-12-2005, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6: Standard QQ hand

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I thought a bit about this hand and decided he would play JJ-AA all the same as he did this hand

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If he would play all of these hands and ONLY these hands the same way... then yes, this is clearly a -EV spot.

However, considering that you say you have had a LAGgy image, the probablity that you can throw in other hands there that you're ahead of may swing it back the other way.

Consider lower pairs than JJ (although TT still sucks here, obviously) AK, AQ, or maybe even air, which is of course, one of the reasons why playing LAG is difficult.

I think that in the end it makes it a pretty close decision, and I would have probably played it the same way, with your image.

Edit: Although, I probably would have just pushed on the flop. He doesn't think he can bluff you off with that last $100 bucks.
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Old 10-12-2005, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: Party 3/6: Standard QQ hand

yeah incredibly standard hand. if he has kk or aa.... so be it. its poker... it happens.
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