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Old 11-16-2005, 06:56 AM
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Hello you guys,

Lau and I were at a 2/4 6max table. The other players were pretty terrible, Lau was playing OK up to this point. I was drunk. Here is the hand.

I raise it up UTG with K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Lau reraises behind me. Everone folds, and I call.

Flop (7sb) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Check, Check.

Turn J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Check, Check.

River T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Check, Check.

Like? No likes? What would you have done?

ps; Jacks and yoghurt is not a good drink.
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:10 AM
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*grunch*

I'm thinking about leading the turn semi-bluff style. If he calls repeat on the river. If he raises, call and c/f the river UI.

The pot is too small to be more aggro .

p.s. I would love to see you and Lau play on the same table!

Edit: Jacks and yogurt - yikes!
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:11 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Lautzutao

You played it well, he played it like sh!t.
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:15 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Lautzutao

I think this is fine. Semi-bluffing the turn wouldn't be wrong, and neither would taking a shot at the river. But it's not something you need to do every time you're in this situation.



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ps; Jacks and yoghurt is not a good drink.

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I don't think I needed to be told this...
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Old 11-16-2005, 08:36 AM
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Did you think KQ had showdown value?
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs Lautzutao

I take a shot on the turn. we are getting 3.5:1 on a bluff with several outs to improve on the river.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:49 AM
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I take a shot on the turn. we are getting 3.5:1 on a bluff with several outs to improve on the river.

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Yeah but if he raised, I think I would have thrown up in my mouth.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:52 AM
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I take a shot on the turn. we are getting 3.5:1 on a bluff with several outs to improve on the river.

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Yeah but if he raised, I think I would have thrown up in my mouth.

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I don't think he's capable of this play with anything less than KK, and even then I doubt he would give a free card to you. Him raising the turn only becomes problematic if he will do it with a wide range of hands (nearly all of which we will be behind to). I do not think he is capable of this.
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Old 11-16-2005, 10:57 AM
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I take a shot on the turn. we are getting 3.5:1 on a bluff with several outs to improve on the river.

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Yeah but if he raised, I think I would have thrown up in my mouth.

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I don't think he's capable of this play with anything less than KK, and even then I doubt he would give a free card to you. Him raising the turn only becomes problematic if he will do it with a wide range of hands (nearly all of which we will be behind to). I do not think he is capable of this.

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Just for the record, we were chatting on this table so we know who each other were. I at least was thinking what he thought that I thought he had. I was actually hoping he would bet the turn so I could checkraise him.
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:07 AM
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the only problem with a turn c/r is that if he has a heart, then he's calling every time, and will be ahead (given his 3betting range). So, we will need a river bet to take it down anyways.
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