Doyle's Room....my experience.

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I should also add into this....this skin is now Scott Fishman's new site. The Fish Tank, it is also using a VCpoker skin as well. Do I have anything against Scott...nope hardest working man in poker. Probably one of the finest online and live players in the world right now for tournament play. Also a stand up guy when my friend put a beat on him and knocked him out of a tournament at Commerce...tapped the table said nice hand and got up and walked away, no drama or bad mouthing the guy...just left with class. So, no I don't have any issues with Scott either.

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Namedropping isn't going to help your cause. Doyle this, Scott that, blah blah blah.

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it is on a forum and people are viewing this and this is good?

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Nobody cares, so how can it bad? Keep plugging away. I'm sure you will bring Doyle's Room to it's knees.

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Harvester....I don't expect you to know how to run an internet cardroom/casino/etc .......I have been on the industry for 6 years and in the process you can see EVERY kind of players abuse that you can imagine

but just to illustrate the point

"Now you are assuming that this costs them money, please show me where it says this costs them a dime to transfer funds between players on their own network. "

if the site is VC and the other one is doyle by making a transfer like that doyle is lending the money to you while they get it from VC , makes sense? they are not under the same "administration" , nor do they share the same bank accounts ......its a cash flow issue

now I didnt read your entire posts to see if it was intrasite or intranetwork , if it was intrasite ...disregard that

It DOES cost the site to transfer money and pay a cashout without getting a dime in rake , that one is quite CLEAR

"that they must be getting money from Neteller or some kind of bonus" you know what happens when you ASSUME right? neteller has fees for EVERYTHING

also you say that if you don't deposit by neteller you cant withdraw by neteller and that is stupid rule eh? well imagine the following
a) player deposits by cc
b) requests withdrawal by neteller
c) withdraws neteller money to bank account
d) charges back all deposits by cc

guess who lost?


I am not saying you acted in bad faith but a few bad apples spoil it from everybody........after you get the first few hundred thousand of dollars in chargebacks you learn that most of the times people will try to screw you

at some point the company I work for (NOT poker) paid a 10000 dollar jackpot.....just to have the pleasure of getting a paypal deposit bouncing (thats when paypal was still in the business of egaming payments) can you imagine .....
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Great post thanks, yes I agree with you. However, it is a logistical nightmare however that is what happens with that many people online. You can't just deny anything, you have to work with your customers, which in this case was a complete failure. And I see your points, and in many instances this would be applicable, just in this one they don't apply to the situation at hand.

[FlFishOn]

I never got anything but grief from Doyle. I did dish out a coupkle thou in bad publicity for the disservice I got.

I use FirePay and haven't had any cash out issues but I'm not playing there right now. In any case like any site where you have a bonus you can't cash it out until you work it off in rake. Other than that it is true any change can't be cashed out from .01-.99. Might as well hit a micro limit table and see what you can do...LOL

[FlFishOn]

"Keep in mind that the century's still young, "

I'm OK with the championship belt from the last century.

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I should also add into this....this skin is now Scott Fishman's new site. The Fish Tank, it is also using a VCpoker skin as well. Do I have anything against Scott...nope hardest working man in poker. Probably one of the finest online and live players in the world right now for tournament play. Also a stand up guy when my friend put a beat on him and knocked him out of a tournament at Commerce...tapped the table said nice hand and got up and walked away, no drama or bad mouthing the guy...just left with class. So, no I don't have any issues with Scott either.

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Namedropping isn't going to help your cause. Doyle this, Scott that, blah blah blah.

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it is on a forum and people are viewing this and this is good?

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Nobody cares, so how can it bad? Keep plugging away. I'm sure you will bring Doyle's Room to it's knees.

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Wow....you are not....smart. I was commenting on Scott using the same skin, and how I have no issues with him, and also my personal experiences with him as being a stand up guy. Are you like...simple or stupid or something?

I really don't care, if your assertions of the effectiveness of this post are as accurate as your digestion of simple one paragraph English text logic....it should be doing great then in making people aware.

You know what a skin is right? Flush beats a straight also...just FYI.

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Really? They lost my business, my friends business, my other friend who was going to deposit

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Lose three people to make thousands feel safer? I'd make that decision in a heartbeat.

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it is on a forum and people are viewing this and this is good?

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For Doyle's Room, it will probably make most smart 2+2ers feel safer there. For you, not so good, though.

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now it has cost them thousands

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It sounds like you have a pretty high opinion of your poker skills.

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Futile attempt....my rake back stats show how much I have paid out. Player points alone show the ammunts....you are so smart you figure it out in Mike's account alone 160,000 points of rake. Yes, from my stats, I can say easily they are losing thousands. All my referells and all my play and all future profits...**poof**....gone.

For most smart people....whatever man your flame didn't work try again. You missed the point and this just being here is showing people not stumbling off the short buss what is up...you tighten your chin strap on your helmet and concentrate real hard...it will eventually....maybe.

How are people safer....they arn't. Nothing was accomplished except lost revenue and people leaving the site, and bad press.

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Let's all go sign up at Doyle's Room!

[wolfie_cr]

"just in this one they don't apply to the situation at hand." only because your intention was not to screw the site but the very same strategy can lead to a variety of problems for the site in the long run

Note: if it were up to me I would not allow player to player transfer.....its bad enough to control fraud/collusion as it is without that "extra feature"

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Jeez, theres a guy on BW complaining about a site that locked up 40k of his.

Your complaining about them not allowing a cashout after a p2p transfer?

Big deal.

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I should also add into this....this skin is now Scott Fishman's new site. The Fish Tank, it is also using a VCpoker skin as well. Do I have anything against Scott...nope hardest working man in poker. Probably one of the finest online and live players in the world right now for tournament play. Also a stand up guy when my friend put a beat on him and knocked him out of a tournament at Commerce...tapped the table said nice hand and got up and walked away, no drama or bad mouthing the guy...just left with class. So, no I don't have any issues with Scott either.

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Namedropping isn't going to help your cause. Doyle this, Scott that, blah blah blah.

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it is on a forum and people are viewing this and this is good?

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Nobody cares, so how can it bad? Keep plugging away. I'm sure you will bring Doyle's Room to it's knees.

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Wow....you are not....smart. I was commenting on Scott using the same skin, and how I have no issues with him, and also my personal experiences with him as being a stand up guy. Are you like...simple or stupid or something?

I really don't care, if your assertions of the effectiveness of this post are as accurate as your digestion of simple one paragraph English text logic....it should be doing great then in making people aware.

You know what a skin is right? Flush beats a straight also...just FYI.

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You're showing your ass over $300 and you're calling me stupid? You're not even losing the $300. You just can't get it transferred to you when and where you want. Big deal.

"I warned Doyle's room...after several emails...This isn't the first forum I am willing to talk about on nor will this be the last one...threat...warning...outrage..."

Granny's right. You're a dick.