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Dude, I wouldn't touch that with your dick 2 3.17%
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:26 PM
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This is one where reading it at face value (just stats) I toss it.

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with those stats I think his opening range here is wide, and I 3bet it. But, with Tilt's read, it's a matter of whether you think he will outplay you post flop. I don't think a fold is terrible, but with those stats I see him raising a lot of hands we dominate.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:46 PM
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Becuase my past experiences with AJo means I am either winning a tiny pot or losing a huge pot. I would rather save myself the aggravation and just fold it. Just me though, I would expect most to 3 bet this.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:53 PM
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Becuase my past experiences with AJo means I am either winning a tiny pot or losing a huge pot. I would rather save myself the aggravation and just fold it. Just me though, I would expect most to 3 bet this.

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How many experiences do you have in position with AJo against an aggressive late position open-raiser?
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:02 PM
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folding to a cap is so sad I want to cry
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:04 PM
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How many experiences do you have in position with AJo against an aggressive late position open-raiser?

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just 1, but it came out real bad. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:04 PM
Hashiell_Dammett Hashiell_Dammett is offline
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No limpers and no cold callers?
And the two players to my left are decent players?
I'm getting up and finding a better table!
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:15 PM
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folding to a cap is so sad I want to cry

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twas a joke.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: A Basic Preflop Question? AJo OTB

thanks for the input...

i don't know if i think this is an some 3-bet as many are saying. it might be because i am usually more willing to 3-bet these hands for value when the raiser is likely to give up postflop (as opposed to not giving up which was what i tried to convey in my "read"). but i'd agree based on his stats and his position that we're likely in good shape before the flop comes down.

for the people who voted cold call, well, don't.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:32 PM
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With his range and the fact the he's surely trying to take advantage of 3 TAG's behind him when he's 1st in, his range probably includes a bunch of hands we would surely love to smack down. Any A, any two broadway, any pocket pair seem like reasonable holdings.

The fact that he overplays his hands means our implied odds are quite good in this situation if we spike a A or J. He'll lead into us with any pocket pair all three streets and we'll have him dominated a good % of the time.

AJ is about as low as I wanna go with this line of thought though as our equity edge is marginal here and becomes a deficit as we get weaker A's.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:46 PM
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I'm new... so I'm probably wrong, but...

It seems to me that if he's only slightly loose, we could be facing an expensive loss if he's got AK-AQ-AA. If he was a maniac, raising every hand, that would be a different story.

If I was in this spot, I would fold.
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