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Old 10-03-2005, 12:54 PM
nyc999 nyc999 is offline
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The guy pulls three of his stars in the third inning, with home-field advantage in the ALDS on the line. Rangers blow a three run lead and lose, giving Angels home-field.

Now I know the Yankees had fate in their own hands, but a manager should put his best team out there with so much at stake.
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:00 PM
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Now I know the Yankees had fate in their own hands, but a manager should put his best team out there with so much at stake.

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What did he have at stake? If he wants to get some young guys some time for the good of his organization, then why should he care who gets home field in the playoffs?
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:04 PM
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If NYY gave a rat's ass why was Wright starting instead of Mussina? Didn't Torre pull his starters after 4 or 5 inn.? Check the lineups for other teams out of it I'm sure you'll see the same thing.
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:57 PM
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If NYY gave a rat's ass why was Wright starting instead of Mussina? Didn't Torre pull his starters after 4 or 5 inn.? Check the lineups for other teams out of it I'm sure you'll see the same thing.

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You have to weigh your options - they are assured a playoff spot so use your good starter in Game 1 instead of Game 4. He would have also been working on short rest.

As for pulling the players, Jeter got hurt and I believe they were down by 7 or 8 when everyone else came out.

And Showalter pulled his stars so they could "get a round of applause"...not for the team's benefit.
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:10 PM
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And Showalter pulled his stars so they could "get a round of applause"...not for the team's benefit.

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Doesn't matter if he pulled them so they could get home in time for "The Simpsons." His team, his choice, he's the manager, and he doesn't owe anybody else a thing.
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:14 PM
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And Showalter pulled his stars so they could "get a round of applause"...not for the team's benefit.

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Doesn't matter if he pulled them so they could get home in time for "The Simpsons." His team, his choice, he's the manager, and he doesn't owe anybody else a thing.

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I disagree. As a paying customer, I want to see the best players out on the field. I know the game was essentially meaningless to the Rangers, but as for taking out your best players in the 4th inning so they could get applause? Bullshit. If you are going to do that, do it in the 7th,8th or 9th. They are going to have the next 5 months off anyways.
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:16 PM
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And Showalter pulled his stars so they could "get a round of applause"...not for the team's benefit.

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Doesn't matter if he pulled them so they could get home in time for "The Simpsons." His team, his choice, he's the manager, and he doesn't owe anybody else a thing.

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I disagree. As a paying customer, I want to see the best players out on the field. I know the game was essentially meaningless to the Rangers, but as for taking out your best players in the 4th inning so they could get applause? Bullshit. If you are going to do that, do it in the 7th,8th or 9th. They are going to have the next 5 months off anyways.

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Sorry. Must have missed your vitriolic complaining about the other 21 teams that played a bunch of scrubs yesterday.
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Old 10-03-2005, 05:18 PM
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I think paying customers deserved to see the best yankee players on the field as well, which didn't happen since they didn't even start the guy who was supposed to pitch, saving him for the playoff game. How can they possibly complain about the other teams when they did the same thing?
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:58 PM
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If NYY gave a rat's ass why was Wright starting instead of Mussina? Didn't Torre pull his starters after 4 or 5 inn.? Check the lineups for other teams out of it I'm sure you'll see the same thing.

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resting mussina and having a better chance to win game 1 essentially gives you home field advantage. plus joe needed to know whether to have wright onthe post-season roster. now he can leave him off.
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Old 10-04-2005, 12:08 AM
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If NYY gave a rat's ass why was Wright starting instead of Mussina? Didn't Torre pull his starters after 4 or 5 inn.? Check the lineups for other teams out of it I'm sure you'll see the same thing.

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resting mussina and having a better chance to win game 1 essentially gives you home field advantage. plus joe needed to know whether to have wright onthe post-season roster. now he can leave him off.

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I think was Joe did was perfectly reasonable and the right decision, but it just means that the Yankees are in absolutely no place to complain when a team that is out of it takes their big expensive guns out halfway through the last game of the season.
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