another hand vs the min 3bet guy

[schwza]

this guy is the same guy from my min 3bet hand. (summary of it: i open, he minraises, i call and check/fold the flop.)

it's the final table. payouts are standard party/empire - i think these are right: 1st 3k, 4th 960, 7th 535.

this is the first time villain has limped in the ~150 hands i've played with him.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (7 handed) converter

Hero (t19505)
Button (t26812)
SB (t6779)
BB (t27842)
UTG (t7479)
MP1 (t6807)
MP2 (t11776)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t800, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2500</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t10100</font>, Hero ?

[gumpzilla]

I think you call this. I'm thinking his min 3-bet business before probably was AA/KK, and thus I'm more likely to interpret this as something more TT-QQ, AKish - something where he doesn't quite want a call in the same way but doesn't mind getting one.

[dmk]

i'm just glad someone else runs into AA as much as i do

fold. you'll still be slightly above avg and ~22BB. still a good amt of room to play. villian likes to leave himself 1k behind in case you come over the top i guess. it sucks, but you should fold here too.

[dmk]

i dunno...you think he limps first in from MP2 w/ tt-qq? ak i can agree with.

the problem is, i'll have these hands, think "...i'm so beat here...", proceed to call because he *might* have ak/jj/qq, and end up losing to aa/kk. maybe i'm getting more weak-tight, but i think i need to start folding more in spots like this.

[gumpzilla]

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i dunno...you think he limps first in from MP2 w/ tt-qq? ak i can agree with.

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Seven handed against opponents who are probably stealing a fair amount? Sure. These are sort of like a free resteal where even if you're wrong you probably still have large amounts of equity.

[fnord_too]

Calls.

Edit - meh, with those stacks this is a bit closer than I like, but I still call.

[dmk]

thats true.

hero needs about 38% equity to make this call. it looks pretty close to me. it depends on how often villian would have aa, kk, qq-tt, and ak obviously.

i'm still leaning towards fold, but i can see some merit in calling.

[Flopzilla]

Limp reraise???
I smell AA this time. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

[schwza]

what do you think about limping behind here? there's a pretty good chance i'm getting limpRR'ed here, so i can avoid it with a limp. then if someone raises, i can fold if the first limper plays and limpRR myself if he doesn't.

if no one raises, i proceed with caution unless an A flops, in which case i'll get a-i.

ugly?

[dmk]

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what do you think about limping behind here? there's a pretty good chance i'm getting limpRR'ed here, so i can avoid it with a limp. then if someone raises, i can fold if the first limper plays and limpRR myself if he doesn't.

if no one raises, i proceed with caution unless an A flops, in which case i'll get a-i.

ugly?

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id' rather find out now what villian has. he said "me have good hand, me raise"