Questionable Laydown - My First! (200 PLO8b) - Page 2

Spladle Master · #1 12-09-2005, 06:22 PM

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I dont like the preflop or the planned check-raise.

Catch My Bitch, the LAG, when you have a hand. A better hand will come around for you soon. Then try to take the LAG's stack then.

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An overpair with the third nut low draw against someone potting it every time it's their turn to act isn't a hand?

willmay3 · #2 12-13-2005, 07:00 PM

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I dont like the preflop or the planned check-raise.

Catch My Bitch, the LAG, when you have a hand. A better hand will come around for you soon. Then try to take the LAG's stack then.

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Let me give you a different perspective. I am a total sucker in this game, losing close to $6000 in the last year playing in the $100 and the $200 buy in games on various sites (mainly Party and Stars - screenname willmay3. You want to play at my table!).

It is EXACTLY these types of hands and playing them EXACTLY as you have described that have caused me to go broke. I'm not sure I would have folded preflop now with my increased discipline, but the idea of slapping around a BIOTCH with an overpair and a WEAK low draw smells of Hold 'Em thinking to me.

I know this smell well - it smells like a bankroll being burned.

You are looking for is an opportunity where you KNOW you have a lock one way and are freerolling on his punk ass for the other half (I speak as a recovering punk ass on this one).

You are no where near that. You have a dubious high and an even more dubious low and you could be drawing almost dead in both directions.

This is what I call a "might-but hand." I might have him beat high, and I might have him beat low, BUT if I don't I can still draw out on him.

I've gone broke (in the poker sense - send FPP to willmay3rd@yahoo.com to help out) with this sort of brain damaged thinking.

What you want is a "I Know" hand. Like I KNOW I have the nut low, and I'm drawing to a scoop on the nut flush.

In Hold 'Em you can't wait for the nuts and hope to win. In PLO8, ESPECIALLY against LAG's, you sure as hell can. You may only, really win 1 pot an hour, but it will be HUGE.

Just to share with you, while I was losing all this money at PLO8 I was winning an incredibl amount of pots at show down, over 93%. That means in 93% of the time I was winning at least 1/2 the pot. But, thinking like I think you are thinking (may be wrong), that 7% was a real BIOTCH. I was getting scooped monster pots by, really, average players playing patient games.

This is the way to beat this game.

Pick a better spot with this guy.

With Regards,

Will

p.s. - I hope I didn't come of as an [censored], it's just I've been there (I might still be there).

#3 12-13-2005, 07:16 PM

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Just to share with you, while I was losing all this money at PLO8 I was winning an incredibl amount of pots at show down, over 93%. That means in 93% of the time I was winning at least 1/2 the pot. But, thinking like I think you are thinking (may be wrong), that 7% was a real BIOTCH. I was getting scooped monster pots by, really, average players playing patient games.

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LOL.
Beset, this guy should be banned on account of being ...

willmay3 · #4 12-13-2005, 07:50 PM

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Just to share with you, while I was losing all this money at PLO8 I was winning an incredibl amount of pots at show down, over 93%. That means in 93% of the time I was winning at least 1/2 the pot. But, thinking like I think you are thinking (may be wrong), that 7% was a real BIOTCH. I was getting scooped monster pots by, really, average players playing patient games.

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LOL.
Beset, this guy should be banned on account of being a fking idiot.

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Mr. Balz, you have no idea. After awhile you'd think I'd get a clue wouldn't you? Thank God for Limit HE which allowed me to play 1200 hours of poker last year and make a big, fat, whopping $6, for an earn rate of 1/2 of 1 cent per hour ! Just awesome!

So, now I still play PLO8 but I'm a actually winning (new thing for me). We'll see if it keeps up.

With Regards,

Will

Jorge10 · #5 12-09-2005, 05:12 PM

KK23 is a big hand. I dont mind calling preflop and trying to bust him. To anyone that folds this preflop: WHAT?!?

This is an easy flop to get away from because you know the guy that called the villan probably has the nut low draw. Also you cant put villan on a hand, even if it seems like you probably have him beat, he might show something that beats you like top two or even a small set. Just wait till you get a hand, no need to get your money in on a flop that didnt really do much for you.

Spladle Master · #6 12-09-2005, 06:22 PM

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KK23 is a big hand. I dont mind calling preflop and trying to bust him. To anyone that folds this preflop: WHAT?!?

This is an easy flop to get away from because you know the guy that called the villan probably has the nut low draw. Also you cant put villan on a hand, even if it seems like you probably have him beat, he might show something that beats you like top two or even a small set. Just wait till you get a hand, no need to get your money in on a flop that didnt really do much for you.

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These were my thoughts.

blumpkin22 · #7 12-10-2005, 08:12 PM

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KK23 is a big hand.

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The problem with the hand is that with the 23 you need an ace to flop, but then that makes KK no good for the high. So you really are looking for AKx to flop. Good luck with that.

Spladle Master · #8 12-10-2005, 08:17 PM

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KK23 is a big hand.

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The problem with the hand is that with the 23 you need an ace to flop, but then that makes KK no good for the high. So you really are looking for AKx to flop. Good luck with that.

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Just for the record, crazy guy in this hand had 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Remind me again why it is so necessary that either an ace or king flop for me to continue playing and I'll listen.

Jorge10 · #9 12-10-2005, 08:49 PM

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KK23 is a big hand.

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The problem with the hand is that with the 23 you need an ace to flop, but then that makes KK no good for the high. So you really are looking for AKx to flop. Good luck with that.

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No you dont need A/K to come on the flop. Any flop with a King is a monster flop for you. If the flop comes K/10/8, the 2/3 will come into play on any favorable turn for you. If a J, Q, or A, or 9 comes you are probably dead to anyone that called your flop bet. So you need a low card on the turn. Thats where 2/3 comes into play. If a low comes on the river you will not just get the high, you will scoop a big percentage of the time. Thats why its a solid hand.

Also if the flop comes A/7/8 and you bet and a guy just calls. You are usually way ahead and will quarter him a big percentage of the time.

You dont need a monster both ways to continue in a hand.

blumpkin22 · #10 12-11-2005, 03:12 AM

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Any flop with a King is a monster flop for you.

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LOL. You are funny to me.

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If the flop comes K/10/8, the 2/3 will come into play on any favorable turn for you.

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Also if the flop comes A/7/8 and you bet and a guy just calls. You are usually way ahead and will quarter him a big percentage of the time.

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I agree here.