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Old 12-11-2005, 01:51 PM
imported_smoove imported_smoove is offline
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Default Flopped flush vs. fish with probable flopped flush...I shut down...

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<font color="blue">Villain is pretty darned fishy at 56/1.4/.6 over 140 hands. This situation must be pretty rare, but I didn't know how to handle it.</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

<font color="blue">When this guy caps me, I am almost certain he also has a flush. But I really have no idea whether I'm ahead or behind. He's entirely capable of playing any two suited cards--and only the J and the T beat me right now (especially if he has both of them!). Would it have been better to continue the aggression?</font>

Turn: (6.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

<font color="blue">Good lord. Given I'm 98% certain he flopped a flush, he can't have a boat (but could still have a Royal). Is it worth trying to scare him out on the river? I'm thinking it might work against a thinking player, but maybe not this guy.</font>

Final Pot: 10.50 BB
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:15 PM
stillbr stillbr is offline
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Default Re: Flopped flush vs. fish with probable flopped flush...I shut down..

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<font color="blue">Good lord. Given I'm 98% certain he flopped a flush, he can't have a boat (but could still have a Royal). Is it worth trying to scare him out on the river? I'm thinking it might work against a thinking player, but maybe not this guy.</font>

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

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Raising the river agasint this player would be bad. He is never EVER ever folding no matter what he has. Just hope for a smaller flush.
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:15 PM
me454555 me454555 is offline
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Default Re: Flopped flush vs. fish with probable flopped flush...I shut down...

I'd rather bet/fold the river than check call here. He's not likely to bet any hand you can beat but you've still gotta call b/c you're good here often enough to make it correct. He will sometimes check behind w/a lower flush
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Old 12-11-2005, 07:25 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Flopped flush vs. fish with probable flopped flush...I shut down...

I think a hand like JTo is also something to consider on the flop (and maybe AQ/KQ). But I think you picked a good time to slow down.

If Villain has a flush, then 13 out of 28 available combinations beat you.
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