Daliman throws his hat in with the conspiracy theorists.

[Prickly Pete]

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***** Hand History for Game xxxxxxxxx*****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament xxxxxxxx) - Sat Mar 26 02:12:15 EST 2005
Table Step 5 983423 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Some Guy (2315)
Seat 2: ZeeJustin (3085)
Seat 3: ZeJustin (2640)
Seat 4: ZJustin (850)
Seat 6: surrealpoker (1110)
Some guy posts small blind (150)
ZeJustin posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to surrealpoker [ Ad, 6s ]
Player 3folds.
PacmanFL: 44% in the $1000's pretty damn impressive too
ZJustin raises (850) to 850
Zjustin 1 is all-In.
surrealpoker folds.
Some guy folds.
ZeeJustin folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1300 with ZJustin
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1300
Some guy balance 2165, lost 150 (folded)
ZeeJustin balance 2785, lost 300 (folded)
ZeJustin balance 2640, didn't bet (folded)
ZJustin balance 1300, bet 850, collected 1300, net +450
surrealpoker balance 1110, didn't bet (folded)

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Looks like wild speculation to me.

[john_]

I think you're allowing your probable short-term bad luck at step 5 tournaments to affect your judgement. You can't expect the same ITM you have at 100's & 200's over such a small sample size at Step 5's. I think because you busted out on the bubble again you're moving to the conspiracy theory ring.

Loose calling early and loose calling all in's on the bubble are two completely different things.

They don't seem like completely horrible players either. Someone around 30% ITM which I would consider average you call horrible?

For what it's worth, a lot of people misplay hands on their blinds. Here's a couple of the worse cases I've seen at the higher stakes:

$200 NL STT - I get disconnected when I finally get back I'm in the money but on the button with 550 in chips Q3o. SB has about 1500 and BB has about 7950. I push all in into 250 / 500 blinds. BB folds to me! So I come back, outlast the SB & almost won.

Step 5 $1000 NL - I'm UTG with KK and 850 chips. I push all in into 25 / 50 blinds BB has about 2000 chips and calls with 73o and wins with straight.

[Daliman]

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***** Hand History for Game xxxxxxxxx*****
300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament xxxxxxxx) - Sat Mar 26 02:12:15 EST 2005
Table Step 5 983423 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Some Guy (2315)
Seat 2: ZeeJustin (3085)
Seat 3: ZeJustin (2640)
Seat 4: ZJustin (850)
Seat 6: surrealpoker (1110)
Some guy posts small blind (150)
ZeJustin posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to surrealpoker [ Ad, 6s ]
Player 3folds.
PacmanFL: 44% in the $1000's pretty damn impressive too
ZJustin raises (850) to 850
Zjustin 1 is all-In.
surrealpoker folds.
Some guy folds.
ZeeJustin folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1300 with ZJustin
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1300
Some guy balance 2165, lost 150 (folded)
ZeeJustin balance 2785, lost 300 (folded)
ZeJustin balance 2640, didn't bet (folded)
ZJustin balance 1300, bet 850, collected 1300, net +450
surrealpoker balance 1110, didn't bet (folded)

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Looks like wild speculation to me.

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[Daliman]

30% ITM if accurate and with equal distribution will lose $15 per tournament. I consider that bad, but player 2 in particular is horrible. About an hour earlier, he raised to 150 on me UTG 8 handed, had 680 left after it, I reraised him allin and he called my AKs with AJo without a moment's thought...then, in a step 5 later, he raised to 250 with blinds 25-50 from MP, had 400 left, and folded to the BB's all in....

[stupidsucker]

You can count me in as a person that feels there are things going on in online poker that are less honest then one might imagine. I wont go into detail.(this time)

I can say that none of it is going to stop me from playing(yet).

[Irieguy]

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If the Poker Genie gave me a 100K bankroll and the cosmic assurance that I was 8% better than the step 5 field, I still wouldn't play step 5's due to fear of collusion.

Irieguy

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What would the granted percentage have to be in order to play against 2 colluders?

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20%

Irieguy