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Old 12-19-2005, 03:01 PM
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Default How petty....Super Nit

On a 10-20 a new player comes in and sits down in the CO. He chooses to wait to post. Blinds come around to him, he says he'll post after the blinds. Dealer says that the rule is that it'd be posted as missing your blinds($15) than a new player post($10) because you can't come in at the same position. Meaning, if it was the HiJack seat, then he would be able to post in the CO after the blinds for $10. That was news to me as I always heard you could let the blinds pass once no matter where you came in at. No biggie, you'd think. Post and ask the floor about it later. NOPE. This guy wanted a ruling.

The guy: The most miserable man in Muckleshoot. Bitter guy who gives nothing for anyone. Once saw him snap at a guy sitting on his left to 'get his own table' because he wanted to share it with him for their cigarettes/drinks and there wasn't another table close by. Along with being a super-nit. This is a guy who will get snapped on a hand, sit out and ask for a set up, get up and walk around, then at the 29 min mark (they allow 30 mins away from the table) he'll come in, rack up and leave. This happens with some regularity.

So anyways, a floor comes over and makes the ruling agreeing with the dealer. All is fine, ready to go? NOPE. Now super nit wants the managers involved. So now we have 3-4 floor people hearing it all again, blah blah....

Result: After about 15+mins of him over by the managers desk pleading his case, original decision is overruled, he can let the blinds pass. Meanwhile all this is going on, the game has continued and the blinds have since passed him again. 5-10 mins later, it's time for him to post his BB, player asks if he's going to post, he says no, that he'll post afterward. Player asking now stands up. Mind you, this player doesn't have a history of getting angry. He's one of the most pleasant people you can play with. He asks super nit if we were all supposed to wait forever for him to make up his mind and hold up the game just for him, blah blah... Super nit gets all pissy and asks if the player want's super nit to leave. (my mind is screaming in big letters YES!, but I digress [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) Player asks if he's going to post his blinds. Nit says no, player packs his chips and goes on the board for another table. Nit now sits out as he needs a coffin nail bad. While sitting out, as the blinds are passing him, he gets called for the opening of a 6-12 table. So he gets his stuff and leaves essentially never playing a hand.

All this, over $5. The guy is sitting down with likely $500 and he's that worried about $5 enough to spend 20 mins on it.

Funny thing, as they were starting that 6-12, the player who left first, who stood up, was also called for that table. Upon seeing who was going to be at that table, he passed and waited for another one.

It was rather entertaining. I went up to the floor who made the overruling and jokingly said how all this was over $5. They just shook their head, rolled their eyes and sarcasticaly mentioned how it'd be nice if supernit got the hell out and never came back.

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Old 12-19-2005, 03:07 PM
RydenStoompala RydenStoompala is offline
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This is a guy who will get snapped on a hand, sit out and ask for a set up, get up and walk around, then at the 29 min mark (they allow 30 mins away from the table) he'll come in, rack up and leave. This happens with some regularity.

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Someone has to take one for the team, here. Draw straws to see who runs him down with a stolen car in the parking lot. It's natures way (ref. Darwin) of weeding out the "never shoulda happened" species.

No..seriously...DO IT.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: How petty....Super Nit

Very bad idea for the manager to overrule his floor people in minor disputes like this. In a major dispute or if the floor was blatantly wrong, the manager should make the correct ruling. But in situations like this, he should've supported the prior ruling regardless of what the official rule is.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: How petty....Super Nit

wow... i'm getting angry just reading about this guy. I'm pretty tolerant of a lot of [censored] at the table, but nothing pisses me off like guys who slow down the game for no reason. These idiots may have all the time in the world and actually save money by getting in less hands/hour, but I don't and I can't stand using my precious free time watching idiots argue with dealers, players argue with other players, dealers changing decks, assholes slowrolling, cocksuckers staring each other down when deciding to call one more bet in a huge pot... the list goes on and on.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:49 PM
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Very bad idea for the manager to overrule his floor people in minor disputes like this. In a major dispute or if the floor was blatantly wrong, the manager should make the correct ruling. But in situations like this, he should've supported the prior ruling regardless of what the official rule is.

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I agree.

I couldn't hear what was being said when he got everyone involved, so I don't really know how it got to that point.

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Old 12-19-2005, 05:12 PM
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I can never figure out what is going through the minds of these people who always want to be a table, but never actually play.

Early this morning at the Wynn I was playing 4/8 while waiting for the 8/16. I sat down in the 4/8 and noticed that there was a player two from button sitting there with a missed blind button, So if figured that he was waiting for the blind to come around. the blind comes around and he sits out. Ok I figure he's waiting to post behind (which strikes me as odd since he was basically in that position when I sat down). So now the blinds pass and he still sits there without posting and waits for the blinds to come around again before posting in the Big Blind. Now this guy plays a round (the table is 9 handed at this point). When the blind comes around agian he decides to sit out (he never left the table) but now everyone is kind of irritated that this guy is sitting there and not playing and next 5 players refused to post their blinds and the game broke. Many of the players decided to cash out, I got called to the 8/16 and then I saw this guy take a seat at another 4/8 game (I have no idea if he ever played again) What are these people thinking?
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:19 PM
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Now this guy plays a round (the table is 9 handed at this point). When the blind comes around agian he decides to sit out (he never left the table) but now everyone is kind of irritated that this guy is sitting there and not playing and next 5 players refused to post their blinds and the game broke.

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So let me get this straight... It's a 9 handed table and because one guy is sitting out, 5 people refuse to post their blinds and cause the game to break?

What a bunch of nits.

Somebody should have told those cheap bastards to quit crying and post their f-cking blinds.
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: How petty....Super Nit

If you've ever been to the taj this story is nothing, although the guy does sound like a grade A [censored].
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Old 12-19-2005, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: How petty....Super Nit

I do not think it is at all inappropriate to just ask this type of player to not play in your room anymore. Although policies for 86-ing players vary greatly from house to house, just about every house has a rule that allows them to refuse service to anyone. If someone is just plain BAD FOR BUSINESS, then asking them to take a permanant hike is just fine by me.

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Old 12-19-2005, 08:35 PM
Al_Capone_Junior Al_Capone_Junior is offline
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Default Re: How petty....Super Nit

I also agree changing the decision was bad. Basically they allowed a jerkoff super-nit to continue to argue his petty point until he got a floorman that would rule in his favor.

In many cases, the floor should simply "back up the dealer" or the other floor, or whatever. If events cannot be precisely determined by me, but the dealer appears very confident of what happened, I will usually back them up and go with their judgement. A typical example would be when I am called to make a decision on a string raise, and the dealer is quite certain that a string raise did in fact occur, but the player is arguing, so the floor is called.

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