K6s in BB - Turn Donk

Evan · #1 12-14-2005, 10:32 PM

I've been trying to win more pots out of position because I think I usually give up too easily. I was planning to donk pretty much any turn card. What do you think?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 folds, CO raises, 1 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.00 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets

DeathDonkey · #2 12-14-2005, 10:54 PM

Hey Evan,

The problem I have here is that he is too likely to call with ace high, because its such an ugly board, a potential draw is there so you might be semibluffing with any diamond, and mostly because he would have a gutshot. And then for him its just one more bet on the river, and you have to fire both barrels. I think this is not the spot to try and win the pot OOP - I check/fold the flop.

-DeathDonkey

Rubeskies · #3 12-14-2005, 11:17 PM

Change the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] to the 7 of non diamonds and I like it much better.

I agree with DD's reasons why this isn't a great spot for it.

Evan · #4 12-14-2005, 11:19 PM

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I check/fold the flop.

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I feel like if I'm going to call fold a 552 flop I might as well just not play the hand. I'm not really disagreeing because that's what I'd usually do. But it just doesn't make sense if you think about the big picture (one less person, bigger pot, unilkely to have hit my opponent).

I don't know. Maybe I'm just trying a little too hard.

Lmn55d · #5 12-14-2005, 11:20 PM

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I feel like if I'm going to call fold a 552 flop I might as well just not play the hand.

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Why do you say that? Also I think that turn is probably one of the worst ones to donk

Evan · #6 12-14-2005, 11:20 PM

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Change the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] to the 7 of non diamonds

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Even though the 3 gives me a gutshot?

Spicymoose · #7 12-14-2005, 11:22 PM

If you are making this play with here, I imagine that you are also doing it with T8, Q7, and just about every other non A hand that missed? I fold the flop.

Evan · #8 12-14-2005, 11:22 PM

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I feel like if I'm going to call fold a 552 flop I might as well just not play the hand.

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Why do you say that?

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Basically the same thing I said in my OP, I feel like I'm giving up too easy.

Rubeskies · #9 12-14-2005, 11:23 PM

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Change the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] to the 7 of non diamonds

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Even though the 3 gives me a gutshot?

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Well, it also gives any A a gutshot making it much less likely you'll get A high to fold.

Lmn55d · #10 12-14-2005, 11:23 PM

The reason I call k6s in that spot getting 5:1 is not so I can make a +EV decision on a 552 flop