Satellite strategy

[FreakDaddy]

Only 7 seats go to the 500k party tourney. 9 people left. What's your general strategy from this point on considering stack sizes/blinds and structure? Stay aggressive? Passive and hope others bust?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t8000 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t35780)
CO (t215789)
Button (t52247)
SB (t97744)
BB (t75372)
UTG (t40140)
UTG+1 (t112531)
MP1 (t73353)
Hero (t58044)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t16000</font>, <font color="#666666">8 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t28000

[jcm4ccc]

Well, of course you fold that hand. But you can't stay passive -- you are really one of the short stacks. It's hard to give general advice here, but you need to be looking for opportunities to steal the blinds. It's unlikely that you are going to fold into one of the seats.

[FreakDaddy]

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Well, of course you fold that hand. But you can't stay passive -- you are really one of the short stacks. It's hard to give general advice here, but you need to be looking for opportunities to steal the blinds. It's unlikely that you are going to fold into one of the seats.

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I don't think I've ever played for a satellite seat, so I didn't push the normal situations that I would. The guy in the big blind was the dominate chip leader, and he was calling a fair amount of bets. So now with only one person left to bust, how would you play? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10000 (8 handed) converter

SB (t291569)
BB (t72247)
UTG (t93744)
UTG+1 (t95372)
MP1 (t16140)
MP2 (t87531)
CO (t58353)
Hero (t46044)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls [t16140] , <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t15000

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What's your general strategy from this point on considering stack sizes/blinds and structure? Stay aggressive? Passive and hope others bust?


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Strangely enough, i came on here just now to see if there were any satelite strategy threads! Im about to start 2nd round satelite in about 45 mins. So far there is about 165 entries with about the top 20 going through to final round.

So i would also like to know general strategy, as im only in my second satelite, the first being the 1st round!

Personally I don't think there's that much you should do differently. Except that you should basically assume all paid spots are equal to 1st place. Don't make one of those moves that you would only make because you want 1st place and "that's where the money is". Just play solid good poker.

I came into a final table last night knowing I had to get 2nd to qualify, and I was short. I had to make some moves...and got lucky. Just do what you gotta do to make it. If you can blind urself and play tight into the prize, feel free. If your running short, you gotta make a move.

[Exitonly]

theres a guy that has an M of 1 (well, a little more, but close enough). Theres no way i'm playing a hand when he's still at that level. He's about to go bust, and as soon as he does, you win the tournamnet.

Once he doubled, i probably STILL wouldn't play a hand, as i'd still be bigger than him. Exceptions to this would be KK+ (maybe should be AA only) in lp.

[usmfan]

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Well, of course you fold that hand. But you can't stay passive -- you are really one of the short stacks. It's hard to give general advice here, but you need to be looking for opportunities to steal the blinds. It's unlikely that you are going to fold into one of the seats.

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I don't think I've ever played for a satellite seat, so I didn't push the normal situations that I would. The guy in the big blind was the dominate chip leader, and he was calling a fair amount of bets. So now with only one person left to bust, how would you play? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10000 (8 handed) converter

SB (t291569)
BB (t72247)
UTG (t93744)
UTG+1 (t95372)
MP1 (t16140)
MP2 (t87531)
CO (t58353)
Hero (t46044)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls [t16140] , <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t15000

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Fold and it's not even close. SB has a big stack and call call ~12k to get everyone in and BB only has to call ~6k more for the same reason. If MP1 triples up though, you have to steal.

If a big stack prevents you from stealing, you have to adjust and steal either from earlier position or even from the blinds if the situation's right. IMO, you have one move when you can not fold into the seat and you &lt;10BB left and no other immediately-in-danger short stack, and that is: PUSH!!

[FreakDaddy]

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Well, of course you fold that hand. But you can't stay passive -- you are really one of the short stacks. It's hard to give general advice here, but you need to be looking for opportunities to steal the blinds. It's unlikely that you are going to fold into one of the seats.

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I don't think I've ever played for a satellite seat, so I didn't push the normal situations that I would. The guy in the big blind was the dominate chip leader, and he was calling a fair amount of bets. So now with only one person left to bust, how would you play? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10000 (8 handed) converter

SB (t291569)
BB (t72247)
UTG (t93744)
UTG+1 (t95372)
MP1 (t16140)
MP2 (t87531)
CO (t58353)
Hero (t46044)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls [t16140] , <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t15000

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Fold and it's not even close. SB has a big stack and call call ~12k to get everyone in and BB only has to call ~6k more for the same reason. If MP1 triples up though, you have to steal.

If a big stack prevents you from stealing, you have to adjust and steal either from earlier position or even from the blinds if the situation's right. IMO, you have one move when you can not fold into the seat and you &lt;10BB left and no other immediately-in-danger short stack, and that is: PUSH!!

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I know I'm folding this hand of course. MP1 has 1 blind round left and his blinds are coming up in 2 more hands.

[FreakDaddy]

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theres a guy that has an M of 1 (well, a little more, but close enough). Theres no way i'm playing a hand when he's still at that level. He's about to go bust, and as soon as he does, you win the tournamnet.

Once he doubled, i probably STILL wouldn't play a hand, as i'd still be bigger than him. Exceptions to this would be KK+ (maybe should be AA only) in lp.

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That's precisely my dilema here. He's about to bust in 3 more hands. Obviously fold unless, like you said, KK or AA. Unfortunetly I must have been playing with morans or something because he pushed next hand and BB didn't call for an extra 600 in chips (I almost puked). Then he did indeed double with his A7 vs QQ.

[FreakDaddy]

Short stack doubled up a couple times, now we're the short stack. Are we pushing this hand?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10000 (8 handed) converter

SB (t311569)
BB (t57247)
UTG (t93744)
UTG+1 (t120372)
MP1 (t42280)
MP2 (t72531)
CO (t32213)
Hero (t31044)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>. Hero?