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View Poll Results: JTs
overlimp from CO or button 1 7.14%
fold from CO or button 1 7.14%
fold from CO, raise from button 0 0%
overlimp from CO, raise from button 3 21.43%
raise from either CO or button 9 64.29%
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Old 12-04-2005, 02:14 AM
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Default A preflop question

Multitabling 16/10 TAG raises UTG in a 9-handed game. Folded to you in MP1. You've got 88.

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Old 12-04-2005, 02:20 AM
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16/10, yuck, sounds like my weak-ass stats.

Anyway, if they are multitabling they might not have a good enough read to interpret your coldcall for exactly what it is. But they also might be more willing to give up if you 3-bet them and they miss....but your hand is not all that hot vs. their range. I need to think about this more. I know what I would do, but I think it's way wrong. And I am not sure why what I wrote was centered around the multitabling aspect so much.
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Old 12-04-2005, 02:29 AM
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Since they are utg that typically means far fewer raises than their average of 10%. At around 5.5%, they are raising 99+, AJs+, and AQo+ -- ie, half their hands are bigger pairs, and the other half are overs. The blinds and looseness of other people does matter...
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:17 AM
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I think I fold unless I have a really good reason not to (like the whole table will coldcall behind me). Like shemp says- pretty basic hand range thinking means you're assed out here a lot.
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:23 AM
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holy crap muck
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:43 AM
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a lot of other things must be taken into consideration here, how likely he is to fold postflop if he has overs and misses, how likely he is to fold JJ if AK hit, how many lags are behind you, etc, etc.... I make use of all three of these plays, but cold call very rarely and only to change up play from time to time
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:53 AM
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how likely he is to fold JJ if AK hit,

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Gangsta.

Cold-calling in the hopes of knocking him of JJ on AK boards is daft. Gangsta, but daft.

He has at least an A or K in close to 60% of his hands and the remainder are big pairs, the kind of hands people are loathe to fold against people given to such silly enterprises.
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:33 AM
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Yo. Gangsta! 3bet that shiznit, Killa!

(just kidding) It is a fold of course.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:30 AM
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would u consider this a clear fold if it were on the button and it was folded around after the raise, and what about on the button w/ another cold caller?
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Old 12-04-2005, 12:31 PM
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What about 99. What if he's 16/8 and you have TT?
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