A Weird One

[scotty34]

BB is extremely loose-passive - I don't think I've ever seen him fold a blind PF or a pair postflop
UTG is also pretty LP, but not to the same extent as BB

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: (9.20 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero...

I was going for an iso raise PF, but I should have realized that with a table containing 1 other TAG, and 4 players with VPIP's between 45 and 80, that really wasn't going to work. I think limping would have been OK here.

What's your river plan and why?

[Spartan1983]

Raise, looks like a flush. Dont you think he would have raised the turn if he had an 8? Raise and call a 3 bet.

[admiralfluff]

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I think limping would have been OK here.


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I completely agree, and think this is an important point. Raise the river. If this is a "slow-play" but UTG, have a nice guffaw and make a note. It's probably a made flush or straight. I would expect your raise to be called by one of the other players as well.

[scotty34]

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Raise, looks like a flush. Dont you think he would have raised the turn if he had an 8? Raise and call a 3 bet.

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What is an LP player going to 3-bet that we should be calling?

[admiralfluff]

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What is an LP player going to 3-bet that we should be calling?

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A flush, a straight, a 5. One of the tricky things about LP players is that they sometimes have trouble reading the board.

[milesdyson]

yes. i agree with calling a 3-bet. he could 3-bet a 5 especially.

i just had a guy check call me with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on a Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] flop and turn. he check raised the river on the Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. brilliant.

[scotty34]

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What is an LP player going to 3-bet that we should be calling?

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A flush, a straight, a 5. One of the tricky things about LP players is that they sometimes have trouble reading the board.

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True, but I dont think this board is that difficult. I think a 3-bet scares the crap out of LP's for some reason though (I've seen them call with the nuts before). He could definetly be fearing a higher flush or a boat. However, it is a pretty big pot, and I have seen weirder things happen, so yea, a call is probably right if he does 3-bet.

[Peter Harris]

limp pf, raise the river. Villain could have a bajillion things besides an 8 (which is more likely than either 55 or the 97/74 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]).