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call 1 7.69%
raise 12 92.31%
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:19 AM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Default Should I be betting the with overs when I don\'t have the lead?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero....?
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: Should I be betting the with overs when I don\'t have the lead?

Make that the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I may, with the right image. Wrong? Right? Meh?
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:55 AM
Monty Cantsin Monty Cantsin is offline
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Default Re: Should I be betting the with overs when I don\'t have the lead?

There is no standard play here. I think betting out here would constitute a "move". Moves are extremely situation dependent, they have a lot to do with the mood and flow of the table. Normally, 3 opponents is more than you want for making a move like this.

Check/raising a late bettor would actually be a more typical move here. You can also check/call the flop and check/raise certain turns. You can also check/fold the flop. You could also have raised this pre-flop.

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Old 11-27-2005, 01:59 AM
Spicymoose Spicymoose is offline
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Default Re: Should I be betting the with overs when I don\'t have the lead?

Why is check/call not an option under certain circumstances?
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:00 AM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Default Re: Should I be betting the with overs when I don\'t have the lead?

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Why is check/call not an option under certain circumstances?

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Because I personally would not think to do it in this circumstance. I check/folded here, but I wasn't sure if it was "routine."
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: Should I be betting the with overs when I don\'t have the lead?

This is the type of play that can not be looked at in a vacuum. It depends on how they have been playing, how much they have been folding for the most part. Plus how have you been playing over the past 15 hands or so? If you have shown down a lot of garbage you should just move on. Although if the table is respecting you then fire away.
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:07 AM
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This is the type of play that can not be looked at in a vacuum. It depends on how they have been playing, how much they have been folding for the most part. Plus how have you been playing over the past 15 hands or so? If you have shown down a lot of garbage you should just move on. Although if the table is respecting you then fire away.

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Yeah. The reason I remember it is because I felt my image was good at that point in the constantly shifting table dynamics and that I had better than normal folding equity after showing down some monsters. That combined with having not lead from the BB yet and it made me question the check/fold.
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:42 AM
Monty Cantsin Monty Cantsin is offline
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...I felt my image was good at that point in the constantly shifting table dynamics and that I had better than normal folding equity

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This is excellent thinking.

You still have to decide where to spend this equity. You chose not to spend it here, which I think was a fine choice. Shopping is fun.

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Old 11-27-2005, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: Should I be betting the with overs when I don\'t have the lead?

maybe in a 3 or 2 way pot.
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Old 11-27-2005, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: Should I be betting the with overs when I don\'t have the lead?

too many people and too many draws. if anyone has 89 or A8 etc, youre [censored].

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