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Old 11-04-2005, 03:52 PM
Sabrazack Sabrazack is offline
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Default (22$) Very shortstacked, help!

Since both checked on the flop i figured my pair might well be best here and pushed my chips in. Would you do the same?

NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee
Level:5 Blinds(75/150)
Seat 6 is the button

Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: MacLooser ( $850 )
Seat 4: saltydawg004 ( $2971 )
Seat 5: ecal232323 ( $1164 )
Seat 10: HERO ( $825 )
Seat 7: smokinfiend ( $560 )
Seat 6: Pashkent ( $1630 )
Trny:17131115 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 5d 3c ]
MacLooser folds.
saltydawg004 calls [150].
ecal232323 folds.
Pashkent folds.
smokinfiend calls [75].
HERO checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, 3s, 2h ]
smokinfiend checks.
HERO checks.
saltydawg004 checks.

** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
smokinfiend checks.
HERO is all-In [675]
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:54 PM
Hornacek Hornacek is offline
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Default Re: (22$) Very shortstacked, help!

If I'm pushing, I'm pushing the flop...

Here are the scenarios:

a) Someone has a K. you lose (this would happen if you pushed on the turn too).

b) Everyone folds, you scoop the pot.

All you're achieving by the push on the turn (instead of the flop) is allowing someone to outdraw you on the turn. Even a bet of like 200 on the flop, if you're raised, is good enough to make you go away. If someone calls your flop bet, good enough for a check/fold for future streets.

However, personally, I just check this hand down. I don't really want to go down in flames with 3-5o with mid pair sh1t kicker.
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:09 PM
bennies bennies is offline
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Default Re: (22$) Very shortstacked, help!

I do the same and I'd probably push on most turn cards lower than a T or so.
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: (22$) Very shortstacked, help!

Personally, I autopush the flop.

But since you didn't do that...

I'd still push as you did, just because I think my hand is probably best (check behind is probably a mistake) and I'd be ready protect my hand and attend to one of my other tables.

Were you trapped?
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: (22$) Very shortstacked, help!

Push the flop; that way Party's mouse movement RNG will make a 5 come on the turn instead of the Q, and you'll suck out on the big stack's AQo.

In all seriousness, I am not 100% sure I would push this flop as it's rainbow and no threat at all, but I probably would because I need the chips.
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:26 PM
Hornacek Hornacek is offline
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Push the flop; that way Party's mouse movement RNG will make a 5 come on the turn instead of the Q, and you'll suck out on the big stack's AQo.

[/ QUOTE ]

i forgot about the party RNG loophole. tiger is 150% correct.
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Old 11-04-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: (22$) Very shortstacked, help!

Occasionally I might push the flop given one of the two checked. Pray the other doesn't have a Queen. Once you get to the turn though, and the second Q hits, yes, I push here.
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