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Old 10-10-2005, 09:06 AM
MrTrik MrTrik is offline
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Default WTF happened to personal responsibility?

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19 year old college student goes to a frat party. Drinks too much. Discovered floating in a river 5 days later. No foul play is suspected.

Now we have 7 frat boys up on multiple charges. One charge is a felony. They involve providing/selling alcohol to a minor.

The party throwers could have their lives ruined for throwing frat party.

I don't get it. Now we want frat boys to police the population because it's too damn stupid to make correct decisions. This is BS.

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Old 10-10-2005, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: WTF happened to personal responsibility?

Dude, they broke the law. What about taking responsibility for that? The charges are for selling liquor to a minor, not murder.
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: WTF happened to personal responsibility?

Eh, if the kid was of age I may think the line was blurry, but if they sold booze to a minor they screwed themselves and were too stupid to make a correct decision.

Losing some frat boys to the correctional system isn't exactly a huge hit to society, either.
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: WTF happened to personal responsibility?

so the frat brothers made the correct decision not to cut him off?

besides when guys get that drunk they end up chasing off the impressionable freshman girls, so they should have handled the situation before it got to that. or maybe that's what they did...
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:37 AM
PsYcHo-ScHnAuZeR PsYcHo-ScHnAuZeR is offline
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Default Re: WTF happened to personal responsibility?

Next time they should be sure to hide the body better.
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:42 AM
MEbenhoe MEbenhoe is offline
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Default Re: WTF happened to personal responsibility?

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but if they sold booze to a minor they screwed themselves and were too stupid to make a correct decision.


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so you never went to a house party underaged in your entire life? never threw a house party which inevitably attracts minors?
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: WTF happened to personal responsibility?

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so you never went to a house party underaged in your entire life? never threw a house party which inevitably attracts minors?

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I know it.. Underage drinking is the best kind of drinking.
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:56 AM
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so you never went to a house party underaged in your entire life? never threw a house party which inevitably attracts minors?

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That's not the point. The OP is saying that the kid who died should be personally responsible for his own actions. But what about the actions of the frat kids, they shouldn't be responsible for their actions? They broke the law, were caught, and now have to suffer the consequences. If I went to a frat party underage and was caught, I'd have to take responsibility.
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Old 10-10-2005, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: WTF happened to personal responsibility?

Its a ridiculous law in the first place and if it didn't exist things like this would occur much less often/not at all. Anything more then the standard $500 providing alcohol to minors fine that a liquer store or bar would be fined is going too far.
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Old 10-10-2005, 10:25 AM
Los Feliz Slim Los Feliz Slim is offline
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Default Re: WTF happened to personal responsibility?

I see both sides of this issue, having been an officer of a fraternity in college. It should be noted that over 10 years ago, we had "social host liability" beaten into our heads over and over and over again. Right or wrong, the law (in some states at least) says that when you host a party you have some responsibility for what goes on when it comes to drinking. The point is, I have no doubt that somebody at some point completely ignored the instruction they were given to avoid this type of situation.
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