Concept of Chopping Blinds

[ThinkQuick]

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when i sit down, the first thing i do is tell the people next to me that i don't chop.

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I really don't think this is neccesary and could really only upset people. You probably only have to say this when the situation happens.

[chisness]

tinga,

i've been to the rockford games a few times (i'm in buffalo grove)

i remember one of my first live games that wasn't just with friends, a 6-12 home raked game, folded to SB who offers me a chop, i look down at QQ and am like "uhhh do i have to?" at which point it was explained that it's pretty customary, so i agreed -- in a casino i'd probably be less likely to because it's more war less friendly

btw, what do you think of the rockford games? i used to go there all the time before i was big on online poker, played 2-5 and most recently did a few SNGs -- the games seem pretty donkified and the SNG players are almost all far dumber than party skin players, often completely clueless

i think they got rid of the 10-20 game because the maximum bet by law is $10 (they manage to get around this in the NL game by treating it as a tournament, which is probably an illegal "workaround")

[SirFelixCat]

I have always been of the mind that either you chop 100% of the time or you never chop. To each their own, I guess. I don't look at my hole cards until it's my turn to act, so I offer to chop if folded to me in the SB. As long as a player is consistent, I have no problem. Cherry picking, while not illegal etc. I do feel that it is bad form. JMO.

[LImitPlayer]

Why was I in the wrong?

There are no "rules" about chopping.

Why would I chop a premium hand where I could make some money? why would I want to lose 1/2 BB on a crap hand if I don't have to?

[LImitPlayer]

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Cherry picking, while not illegal etc. I do feel that it is bad form

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It may be bad form but it is +Ev

[TheMainEvent]

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They won't raise or they won't play at all as to permit the chop? And why would they do that, does it really give anybody an edge?

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Yes. It gives an edge to the blinds, at the expense of the button.

[chesspain]

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Cherry picking, while not illegal etc. I do feel that it is bad form

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It may be bad form but it is +Ev

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Aside from the non-quantifiable disadvantage of going through life as a douchebag, is it really going to be +EV to piss off a BB who will always act after you? If you pulled that crap on me, I would never offer to chop after that, although I might decide to chop if you asked and I had a crappy hand. The fact that you will always be OOP and forced to act first has to make selective chopping for you a -EV play.

[beset7]

There isn't any rules about chopping.

I just wanted to point out that this isn't always true. Some of the cardrooms near my home in Seattle do have rules about chopping (i.e. if you chop during a session you are obligated to chop for the rest of that session; if you don't chop then you have to play it out each time). Of course it will only be enforced if someone calls for the floor which probably won't happen.

[steamboatin]

No it is not. It is -EV and if you can't figure it out, you need to work on your overall understanding of poker and you might be an ass.

[steamboatin]

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You're correct here. This happened a few orbits later, though. The player that sat between the villain and I was on the button, thus putting the villain in the SB.

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If there is a player between you, the villian has to be in the Big Blind when you are on the button.