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07-18-2005, 05:55 AM
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Standard?
Im pretty sure this is completely standard so dont go thinking ive got something interesting. Just a checkup....
5/106max, UTG is loose and bad, nothing really sticks out yet. read is unimportant anyways i think. Preflop: UTG calls, MP raises, SB calls, I call in BB with 87o, UTG calls... Flop: A85rainbow, checked around Turn: A still rainbow, I bet, UTG thinks and calls, rest fold. River: 3 I check, UTG bets, I turbo muck. yes or no? 
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#2
07-18-2005, 05:59 AM
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Re: Standard?
I think the river check fold is pretty awful. Either bet/fold or check/call. The guy has done nothing but check and call until the river and all the sudden you feel the need to turbo muck [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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#3
07-18-2005, 06:03 AM
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Re: Standard?
What hand could he have called me with on the turn other than an A.
He is not loose enough to be playing 67 UTG, no other draws out there.
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#5
07-18-2005, 06:16 AM
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Re: Standard?
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[ QUOTE ] What hand could he have called me with on the turn other than an A. [/ QUOTE ] You'd be surprised. Seriously though, how about 22,44,A3s, KQ that he thinks is the best hand? [/ QUOTE ] hmmm....i think the type of player that would call the turn with 22 or 44 would check thru on the river. A3s??? ill ignore that one...KQ? i dunno, he was 40/17 i think he would have raised any big Ks. doesnt my play look exactly like i tried to CR the pfr? now im frustratedly betting out on the turn, certainly not bluffing into 4 players. he is sitting with the A and he doesnt want to drive away customers drawing dead, so he flat calls. i hate putting people on such narrow hand ranges, but in this situation i really cant see putting in any bets on the river.
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#6
07-18-2005, 06:25 AM
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Re: Standard?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What hand could he have called me with on the turn other than an A. [/ QUOTE ] You'd be surprised. Seriously though, how about 22,44,A3s, KQ that he thinks is the best hand? [/ QUOTE ] hmmm....i think the type of player that would call the turn with 22 or 44 would check thru on the river. A3s??? ill ignore that one...KQ? i dunno, he was 40/17 i think he would have raised any big Ks. doesnt my play look exactly like i tried to CR the pfr? now im frustratedly betting out on the turn, certainly not bluffing into 4 players. he is sitting with the A and he doesnt want to drive away customers drawing dead, so he flat calls. i hate putting people on such narrow hand ranges, but in this situation i really cant see putting in any bets on the river. [/ QUOTE ] If I count right after a long night you are getting 7 to 1 on the river after UTG bets. Yes the scenario you describe is quite a likely scenario but it will be otherwise often enough to make a check/fold wrong. I'm with NLS on either bet/folding or check/calling depending on a more specific read. Against an unknown probably check/call and ensure a showdown.
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#7
07-18-2005, 09:43 AM
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Re: Standard?
I fold PF
I'm with everyone else, I don't like check/fold river. bet/call or check/call. Your read is he is "loose and bad", you will almost certainely win this often enough to show a profit.
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#10
07-18-2005, 10:42 AM
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Re: Standard?
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What hand could he have called me with on the turn other than an A. [/ QUOTE ] Cant beleive you are convinced he has an A, because he called a turn bet, put yourself in his shoes, flop is checked around,pfr hasnt bet, then the BB bets out when an A hits turn again,would you fold evey hand that hadn't an ace in it?
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