basic or no?

[2005]

Am I supposed to fold the turn?


Hand #5730108-2152 at Penacook ($3/$6 Triple Draw 2-7)
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Started at 17/May/05 00:25:26

merlyn57 is at seat 0 with $187.50.
Sifmole is at seat 2 with $70.50.
ACWOLF is at seat 3 with $379.25.
Gavin_Griffin is at seat 4 with $545.
The button is at seat 3.

Gavin_Griffin posts the small blind of $1.
merlyn57 posts the big blind of $3.

merlyn57: -- -- -- -- --
Sifmole: -- -- -- -- --
ACWOLF: -- -- -- -- --
Gavin_Griffin: Qc 9d 3h 5c 2c

First Round:

Sifmole raises to $6. ACWOLF folds. Gavin_Griffin
re-raises to $9. merlyn57 folds. Sifmole re-raises
to $12. Gavin_Griffin calls.

Gavin_Griffin takes 2 cards. Sifmole stands pat.

Sifmole: -- -- -- -- --
Gavin_Griffin: 3h 5c 2c 7c Ts

Second Round:

Gavin_Griffin checks. Sifmole bets $3.
Gavin_Griffin calls.

Gavin_Griffin takes 1 card. Sifmole stands pat.

Sifmole: -- -- -- -- --
Gavin_Griffin: 3h 5c 2c 7c 3d

Third Round:

Gavin_Griffin checks. Sifmole bets $6.
Gavin_Griffin calls.

Gavin_Griffin takes 1 card. Sifmole stands pat.

Sifmole: -- -- -- -- --
Gavin_Griffin: 3h 5c 2c 7c 4c

Final Round:

Gavin_Griffin bets $6. Sifmole raises to $12.
Gavin_Griffin re-raises to $18. Sifmole calls.



Showdown:

Gavin_Griffin shows 7c 5c 4c 3h 2c.
Gavin_Griffin has 7 5 4 3 2.
Sifmole mucks cards.
(Sifmole has 9h 7h 6s 3s 2h.)


Hand #5730108-2152 Summary:

$1.50 is raked from a pot of $81.
Gavin_Griffin wins $79.50 with 7 5 4 3 2.
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[randomstumbl]

You're getting way more than good enough odds to call on the turn. I'd say the whole hand is pretty automatic.

[timprov]

This is fine.

[2005]

[ QUOTE ]
You're getting way more than good enough odds to call on the turn. I'd say the whole hand is pretty automatic.

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That was my feeling too, just wanted some confirmation.

[fnord_too]

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Am I supposed to fold the turn?


[/ QUOTE ]

Definitely not! (Even before you know he will stand pat with a 9 from the get go and give insane action. Raising the river??? wtf is he thinking? He beats a bluff, and what worse hand bet/calls there?)

With one draw a 4,6 and maybe an 8 will win it for you. You are getting an incredibly nice price on your money, and only catching an 8 may cost you an extra bet, but a 4 or 6 will make you at least an extra bet most of the time.

Preflop really depends on the raiser and BB. I may take any of my options depending on the situation, but I raise more than anything else if the BB has a clue (i.e. will call with some thin draws for the odds if he is closing the action.)

[TakeMeToTheRiver]

I guess the real question is whether you are supposed to three-bet the flop... did you do this because it was short-handed? Was there a lot of loose raising pre-flop? Everything else looks standard to me.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

nh.

[2005]

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I guess the real question is whether you are supposed to three-bet the flop... did you do this because it was short-handed? Was there a lot of loose raising pre-flop? Everything else looks standard to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wanted to get rid of the BB.

[2005]

[ QUOTE ]
I may take any of my options depending on the situation

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You fold this preflop sometimes?!?!?!


ps, yeah, I was surprised when he raised the river with a 9...

[MarkGritter]

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I guess the real question is whether you are supposed to three-bet the flop... did you do this because it was short-handed? Was there a lot of loose raising pre-flop? Everything else looks standard to me.

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I will often 3-bet here to try to knock out the BB, despite being out of position. Of course, sometimes I feel stupid when the original raiser caps with a 1-card draw to a 7 or a pat hand, but I much prefer being OOP with one player than with two.

I tend not to 3bet a two card draw with a 6, even when it's playable, but I think the 532 is worth trying the reraise.

Some weak (or tricky) players will keep a 9 on the first draw with position here so that they are just drawing one. I find this to be a fairly profitable situation as any 9 I make tends to be better and any 8 or 7 can be check-raised. But I don't have solid numbers to back this feeling up.