Flopped full house

Aviston · #1 07-21-2004, 05:51 PM

Typical .25/.50 UB, fairly tight, lots of players will fold to one bet without a piece of the board.

Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Ad, Jh.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB checks,

Flop: (6.40 SB) Jc, As, Jd (6 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 3h (6 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, CO folds, Button calls, BB folds, UTG+2 folds.

River: (6.20 BB) 9h (3 players)
MP1 bets, Hero raises, Button calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 12.20 BB

Comments? Very slow, I realize that. I wasn't sure if I'd lose everyone on the flop if I bet out.

dfscott · #2 07-21-2004, 05:56 PM

I agree with checking the flop, but I'd raise the turn. It's not a very good card for you (anything but a heart would be better), but you want to get people calling before all the cards are out. If he re-raises you (unlikely), I think it's fine to call him and then raise again on the river.

sublime · #3 07-21-2004, 05:58 PM

A-
Raise preflop

Bet the flop

dfscott · #4 07-21-2004, 05:59 PM

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Raise preflop

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Missed that the first time -- absolutely.

Aviston · #5 07-21-2004, 06:01 PM

Agreed on raising the preflop; apparently I'm not overly used to multi-tabling yet and tend to miss things [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Anyway, I didn't raise on the turn because with 4 people behind me to act I didn't want them all folding to 2 bets.

sublime · #6 07-21-2004, 06:02 PM

I agree with checking the flop

Noooooooooooo!!!!

You make money in poker by causing your opponents to make mistakes, which you cant do by not betting.

Hero may have lost more money on this hand than anyone else

dfscott · #7 07-21-2004, 06:02 PM

They called the river -- what makes you think they won't call the turn?

dfscott · #8 07-21-2004, 06:07 PM

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I agree with checking the flop

Noooooooooooo!!!!

You make money in poker by causing your opponents to make mistakes, which you cant do by not betting.

Hero may have lost more money on this hand than anyone else

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Maybe this is why I'm not making very much $$ with full houses. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

sublime · #9 07-21-2004, 06:14 PM

Maybe this is why I'm not making very much $$ with full houses

I wish I had enough to even draw a conclusion.

I see a lot of preflop discussion (yes it does matter) going on in the micros and all these stats being thrown around, goals being talked about etc.

Then I see all these devious plays being made against TERRIBLE opponents. Guys, they suck. Bet your hands. They will call.

I promise [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

tardigrade · #10 07-21-2004, 06:16 PM

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I didn't raise on the turn because with 4 people behind me to act I didn't want them all folding to 2 bets.

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I used to worry a lot about this, but I've been happier now that I don't think about it as much. Chances are that the 2 players who called the turn would have called a raise on the turn and a single bet on the river, giving the exact same result. The difference is that one of them may catch something they like on the river (flush, lower FH, etc.) and let you cap. Also, the other jack could already be out there and slowplaying along with you. You should see if he'll let you cap and how long the other guy will be along for the ride with you. Basically, in my experience, I don't see any ace folding here to a raise, so pop it on the turn. Betting the flop is good, too.