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Old 11-21-2005, 12:16 PM
DONTUSETHIS DONTUSETHIS is offline
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Default AKs versus large overbet.

First hand after second break in pokerstars 5 dollar. Started with about 1800 and down to 275 or so. 180 pay.

300/600 w75 ante.

I am slightly below average with 10250. Villian in BB w/ 24,00.

I raise w AKs in MP1 to 1500. Villian goes all in.
Pot is 12,800 and I have about 8500 left.

Should I call.
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:18 PM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
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Default Re: AKs versus large overbet.

against some players id insta-call against some players id insta-fold

give us some info
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:30 PM
DONTUSETHIS DONTUSETHIS is offline
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Default Re: AKs versus large overbet.

only been at the table for a few hands and he play a pot out of small blind with a limp against the bb and took the pot with a bet on the flop.
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:28 PM
DONTUSETHIS DONTUSETHIS is offline
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Default Re: AKs versus large overbet.

ok if no one has any thoughts on this from atechnical aspect, what is the EV of calling of folding.
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Old 11-21-2005, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: AKs versus large overbet.

Your #s for BB's chip stack look screwed, but if he really is all in and you're calling 8500 to win 12,800 (getting 1.5:1), then you are break even against a range of AA-KK,AKs/AKo.


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

102,738,240 games 0.125 secs 821,905,920 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 40.2462 % [ 00.13 00.27 ] { AKs }
Hand 2: 59.7538 % [ 00.33 00.27 ] { AA-KK, AKs, AKo }





I doubt he would play AA (and prob KK) this way. I'd say he was on AK or QQ-down.

Easy call, sorry you lost.

Edit: and that range is REALLY, REALLY conservative. In a $5, there's bound to be enough Ace-whatevers making this push to make this absurdly easy.
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: AKs versus large overbet.

At a $5 do we really need reads with AKs? I can't wait to get my chips in the middle here.
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Old 11-21-2005, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: AKs versus large overbet.

not really that big of an overbet. you only have 9k behind so he was just putting you in.

anyways, i call.
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Old 11-21-2005, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: AKs versus large overbet.

I call so fast I sprain my finger.

The only hands I can see someone legitimately making this move with are middle pairs, where he knows overcards are going to flop and he doesn't want to guess what you have postflop. So, yeah, you're probably getting in with the worst hand, but the pot odds warrant it.

Alternatively, folding leaves you very close to being a short-stack a point in the tournament where aggression is going to rule without enough chips to be aggressive.

And, given the buy-in, I wouldn't be shocked at all if villain has AJo or something like that that you dominate, especially if you have been stealing a lot previously.
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