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Old 09-07-2005, 04:30 AM
PokerAmateur4 PokerAmateur4 is offline
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The natural mind naturally seeks freedom.


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How do you mean? Define freedom, what is it exactly the the human mind alone, not conditions which it grows acustomed to or ideals which it is trained in is born with that seeks this freedom. How does Hitler not support this freedom you define.

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If Hitler dominated and spawned generations more, people would eventually revolt, freedom would win because freedom is truth and people inherently 'know' truth because we are truth, and society would be rebuilt in a way that better resembles values stemming from this truth.


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What truth. If following Hitler was the only values predominatley taught to children and adults, what value would be followed?
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In however long it would take, society would realize that intolerance is not truth, that is, it is not part of our basic consciousness but is a learned belief/idea, and then it would be obvious that Hitler was a villain for impressing intolerance.

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What's truth. What does inborn conciousness have to do with knowing that your "freedom" is "good" and must be achieved.
Why is your value of freedom born within humans, and Hitler's values of the opposite are not.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:31 AM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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I chose no, here's why . . .

Intolerance needs rule and restriction to maintain it's power on the mind. The natural mind naturally seeks freedom. Oppressed people seek freedom. If Hitler dominated and spawned generations more, people would eventually revolt, freedom would win because freedom is truth and people inherently 'know' truth because we are truth, and society would be rebuilt in a way that better resembles values stemming from this truth. In however long it would take, society would realize that intolerance is not truth, that is, it is not part of our basic consciousness but is a learned belief/idea, and then it would be obvious that Hitler was a villain for impressing intolerance.

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The majority of the population wouldn't be enslaved. At least not in the Roman empire or early American definition of the word.

The Hitler Youth (12-15 year olds) were the soldiers most feared by the Russians because they were so fanatical.

One story of a Hitler youth as told by an adult German soldier is him recalling seeing the young boy crawl under an American tank with a Panzerfaust (a German bazooka) and the boy waved and smiled at the man before he fired it, blowing himself up and the tank in the process.


There is no inherent spirit of a man. There is only societal imprints. You have been imprinted with the ideals of 'Liberty' and 'Freedom' and other righteous and self important concepts that are just words.

Just words.


"Words are a virus" --William S. Burroughs




HITLER FUN FACT #2: Hitler liked it when women urinated on him. He would often masturbate to climax as they did it.

As reported by American intelligence agencies when they tried to create a psychological profile on him. They obtained this information from more than one German actress whom Hitler had an infatuation with, it is also believed Hitler's niece (Geli Raubal) and only true love, killed herself because she feared indulging him in his bizarre sexual fantasies.




THERE IS NO NATURAL MIND


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Old 09-07-2005, 04:49 AM
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The winner of a war is always the good guy and the loser is always "the bad guy". The history is always told from the winners point of wiew.
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