a hand against three morons

stinkypete · #1 08-29-2005, 04:52 PM

UTG poster is 56/18/1.3
MP is 61/4/0.8, and button is about the same.

not too sure of much of my play here. is my turn 3-bet dumb? can i fold somewhere?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $10.
UTG (poster) checks, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP raises, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, MP calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (22.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 25.50 BB

ZZZ · #2 08-29-2005, 04:58 PM

Of all the decisions in poker, it feels most like I'm guessing when deciding whether to 3 bet a turn raise with an overpair or TPTK. Here I think it's OK. You may be behind half the time, but you are getting an overlay from the other players in. Obviously it sucks when UTG call caps. But I can't fold the turn since I have 2 clean outs, and I can't fold the river because a new monitor is expensive.

ZZZ

New001 · #3 08-29-2005, 04:59 PM

A 3-bet on the turn has to be good if you're going to go to the river 4-handed. I think you're ahead often enough for it to be profitable.

Fianchetto · #4 08-29-2005, 05:14 PM

I'm not crazy about the turn 3-bet.

With those stats these guys play almost anything, they limped in, someone really could have a 6.

Also, it doesn't appear to be a position raise to clear the field, he's raising two players, and then the button calls two cold!? Not many reasonable draws out there.

With that turn action I think it's closer to a fold than a 3-bet, but I'd call it down after you get raised on the turn.

Grisgra · #5 08-29-2005, 05:18 PM

The question isn't whether to 3-bet the turn, the question is whether to show this hand down. Guy has an AF < 1 and you're 3-betting him after action like this?

Jeff W · #6 08-29-2005, 05:43 PM

Is MP all-in on the turn? He disappears from the action.

Poldi · #7 08-29-2005, 07:29 PM

I dont think I 3bet the turn against a passive guy. Its unlikely he ll raise a ten here as he is scared of the Sixes himself.
When UTG call-caps, you are behind to one of them (or both) practically every time, got odds for your 2outer though. I dont think you are ever good on the river but calling cant be a crime.

New001 · #8 08-29-2005, 07:29 PM

Playing 60% of your hands, aggression of 0.8 isn't really all that passive. Not to mention possible sample size issues, etc.