Gameplan for getting this chick... Advice Requested

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Sounds like you're getting played dude. Classis nice guy syndrom.

The only way to break out of this is to risk the rejection and just directly state your intentions of wanting to date. Chances are your sunk but really what are risking? A freindship with some chick? Please that's worth a whole lotta nothing.

Also like Mason stated being compared to the other guys is a bad thing not a good thing. Roughly translated it means something like this "see that guy is a bad boy, I bet if he was with me I could change him" Most girls like arts & crafts whether it be stamps, making things, or guy -- it's all about having a project.

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Granted I have nothing better to work on, even if I'm drawing thin, any chance for redemption? When we first met, it was starting on the dating tip, but didn't develop. She gave me the "just no spark, its a shame because everything else would work" line. When it started back up again, her friend asked her if we were dating, and she sounded open to the idea. I think she knows I'm interested (or at least that I was). So I'm SOL, eh? Can I at least use this to my advantage in the event that I find anyone else?

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Oh man now I know for sure you are getting played big time. The girl knows you are interested in her and so she is keeping you around as a friend. This does two things, first the obvious one of having you there do her favors and two the most important one of making her feel good about herself. you are being played big time man

man you need to take emergency action her if nothing more than for yourself. first let's be clear the chances of this becoming anything are close to zero but here's what you do which will solve both problems.

#1 the next two times she calls and asks you to do something you say no thanks because you have other plans. No execptions here. The plans need to be with other people but can just be guy friends.

#2 you then after about two weeks, you call and ask her out on something that is exclusive between the two of you. something like movie or dinner or whatever. If she says she can't you immediately say ok no problem and then break contact. if she tried to change the plans to something else, no dice.

3)if she's interested she will have either said yes to going out or b) if she wasn't avaible she will make quick contact trying to set up a new date.

go ahead and post after each step.