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Old 09-10-2004, 04:02 PM
Toro Toro is offline
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Default Brady or Manning?

Patriots Nation is finally united on the Brady/Bledsoe question. There were some die hard Bledsoe holdouts but finally it's just about unanimous now.

But how does Brady stack up against the best quarterbacks in the whole league. I'm decidely prejudiced but I take him over Manning.
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Old 09-10-2004, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: Brady or Manning?

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But how does Brady stack up against the best quarterbacks in the whole league. I'm decidely prejudiced but I take him over Manning.

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HAHA

Seriously though, try again, how about McNair and Peyton, after all they both were only the co-mvp's last year.

--------------------- QB rating
Steve McNair TEN 100.4
Peyton Manning IND 99.0
Daunte Culpepper MIN 96.4
Trent Green KC 92.6
Jake Plummer DEN 91.2
Brett Favre GB 90.4
Matt Hasselbeck SEA 88.8
Aaron Brooks NO 88.8
Jon Kitna CIN 87.4
Tom Brady NE 85.9
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Old 09-10-2004, 04:14 PM
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But how does Brady stack up against the best quarterbacks in the whole league. I'm decidely prejudiced but I take him over Manning.

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HAHA

Seriously though, try again, how about McNair and Peyton, after all they both were only the co-mvp's last year.

--------------------- QB rating
Steve McNair TEN 100.4
Peyton Manning IND 99.0
Daunte Culpepper MIN 96.4
Trent Green KC 92.6
Jake Plummer DEN 91.2
Brett Favre GB 90.4
Matt Hasselbeck SEA 88.8
Aaron Brooks NO 88.8
Jon Kitna CIN 87.4
Tom Brady NE 85.9

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I knew someone would post some stats. To prove how stats distort the truth, just look at the list you provided. In all honesty, how many of the QB's on that list would you want over Brady?
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Old 09-10-2004, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: Brady or Manning?

of course you leave out the most important stat [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

tom brady wins games. end of story.
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Old 09-10-2004, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Brady or Manning?

You can have your Marino; I'll take Montana.

Brady is the best QB in the league. Heres a good discussion on the topic:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum...owtopic=102985
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Old 09-10-2004, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Brady or Manning?

Peyton has a great arm and a well developed Xs and Os type mind, but is he a leader, a motivator, and a winner. Its something I have always questioned, and maybe I just don't like his personality or he has come off wrong in the interviews I seen him give, but I don't think he is worth the money nor is he one of the better quaterbacks in the league when viewed on non-statistical grounds, and he has never seemed to be the type of person his team rallys around.

He consitently seems to make crucial errors trying to do too much. It was always explained that he had to overacheive to overcome his team's poor defenses, but I don't think that argument has bore itself out in the Tony Dungy era.

Maybe its a small sample size, maybe its due to other variables or my biases but I don't think I want Peyton Manning to start for me in a big football game. OTOH, if I am down 2+ scores in the 4th quater and need a big comeback quaterback, I vote for Peyton, but I think he gambles too much and isn't clutch enough in the pressure spots to ever be truly a great winning quaterback.
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Old 09-10-2004, 04:36 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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Default Re: Brady or Manning?

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In all honesty, how many of the QB's on that list would you want over Brady?

[/ QUOTE ] I would take two for sure over Brady. Manning and McNair, and I consider everyone else in the same group, with a few near the top (Brady, Hasselbeck, Green, and Culpepper)

I am not trying to say that Brady sucks, but as of right now McNair and Manning are better. Brady could very easily become the best in the league, but I will wait till the season is over to make that decision.
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Old 09-10-2004, 04:40 PM
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In all honesty, how many of the QB's on that list would you want over Brady?

[/ QUOTE ] I would take two for sure over Brady. Manning and McNair, and I consider everyone else in the same group, with a few near the top (Brady, Hasselbeck, Green, and Culpepper)

I am not trying to say that Brady sucks, but as of right now McNair and Manning are better. Brady could very easily become the best in the league, but I will wait till the season is over to make that decision.

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Forget mcNair. Too many miles on him. It's either Brady or Manning imo.
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Old 09-10-2004, 04:44 PM
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of course you leave out the most important stat [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

tom brady wins games. end of story.

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No, the New England Defense and Offensive line pass protection wins games.
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Old 09-10-2004, 04:44 PM
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tom brady wins games. end of story.

[/ QUOTE ] what happened to your golden boy in 2002?
McNair wins games too.

FWIW, I think McNair is the best in the league, partly because I hate Manning.
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