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nickey009 · #1 02-23-2005, 12:25 PM

On my very first hand the villian took about 30 bucks off of me when I kept firing with my missed AK. The board came Q high. He kept calling 1/3-1/2 pot sized bets with bottom pair K kicker. I kept firing because I figured him for a flush draw. He stayed in that hand with K4 off suit so I knew he'd basically play any two. I figured him for trips for sure but is my J kicker enough to warrant a call?

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (10 handed) converter

BB ($50)
UTG ($33.15)
UTG+1 ($154.75)
UTG+2 ($37.5)
MP1 ($45.5)
Hero ($259.3)
MP3 ($47.5)
CO ($50)
Button ($45.5)
SB ($48)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, UTG+2 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, MP3 raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, UTG+2 calls $2, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($17) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $6, UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $20, MP3 folds, SB folds, UTG+1 calls $14.

Turn: ($57) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $30, UTG+1 raises to $131.75 (All-In), Hero calls $101.75.

River: ($320.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $320.50

theredpill5 · #2 02-23-2005, 12:43 PM

I thought we weren't supposed to be playing JT o or Q J o . I folded these hands the whole day today.

nickey009 · #3 02-23-2005, 12:46 PM

yeah, well playing it put me in a decision for 100 bucks on a hand that I'm not very confident with.

TonyG86 · #4 02-23-2005, 12:46 PM

I dont like this call very much. Just because you saw this guy play K4 and call you down with bottom pair, doesnt mean hes going to make this play with any two cards. I mean he is check raising you all in for 3xBuyins, he has to have at least trips here and ur J kicker isnt high enough to warrant a call her in my opinion.

theredpill5 · #5 02-23-2005, 01:22 PM

I lost my stack with trips just the other day and I'll never do it again. I lost it out of frustration. Maybe the same happened to you? The way I see it. He's trying to get all your chips in the middle and you have not completed to a full house so you are trying to keep the pot small or at least you should be keeping the pot small. Lets say your kicker is good, you are still only ahead 70/30 or something like that as long as he has a Ten. Trips are different than sets.

I think, though, that you played it fine up until you called his all-in check-raise on the turn. I think you should fold there. I think more often than not, you will be behind here. THere are too many ways for someone to beat you. Q T, K T , A T , T 5, T 3

wbrumfiel · #6 02-23-2005, 01:34 PM

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THere are too many ways for someone to beat you. Q T, K T , A T , T 5, T 3

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Dont forget 33, 55, KK, or less likely (since the money went in on the turn) any 2 diamonds.

KowCiller · #7 02-23-2005, 01:56 PM

While I agree that I would probably lay this hand down, I couldn't resist pointing out how funny this comment is:

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Lets say your kicker is good, you are still only ahead 70/30 or something like that as long as he has a Ten

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Thanks for brightening my lunch [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

nickey009 · #8 02-23-2005, 02:12 PM

If I'm fairly certain he has a T then I'm behind AT, KT, QT, 5T and 3T. I'm ahead of 2T, 4T, 6T, 7T, 8T and 9T. Based on how the hand was played I really count out AT and really KT because I just don't see those hands check raising the turn. If anything I see them pushing the flop really hard. Maybe I'm just trying to justify it.