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Old 11-08-2005, 05:16 PM
Jorge10 Jorge10 is offline
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Default Re: Bartolo Colon Wins AL Cy Young

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How can you possibly argue that Rodriguez is a better closer? I'm really interested to hear how. Saves are a pretty useless stat, and even so Rodriguez only has 2 more than Rivera.

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Are you insane? If saves are not important then what is important for a closer? I would think Blown Saves and Saves are the most important numbers because it tells you how efficient he is. Overall both are pretty even in those categories. He has a better ERA, but still its not enough to make him a candidate for the Cy Young.

Rivera had a slightly better year than K-Rod, but its not like he was that much better.
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:18 PM
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How can you possibly argue that Rodriguez is a better closer? I'm really interested to hear how. Saves are a pretty useless stat, and even so Rodriguez only has 2 more than Rivera.

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Are you insane? If saves are not important then what is important for a closer? I would think Blown Saves and Saves are the most important numbers because it tells you how efficient he is. Overall both are pretty even in those categories. He has a better ERA, but still its not enough to make him a candidate for the Cy Young.

Rivera had a slightly better year than K-Rod, but its not like he was that much better.

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So... let me get this straight. this is genius. A 2 save lead makes up for Rodriguez having an ERA which is well over a point higher? And a WHIP which is .3 higher?

there is only one word for it and it is AWESOME.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:07 PM
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Colon deserves it. Period.

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thnx 4 contributing

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Angels beat the Yankees...nyaaa!
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:19 PM
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:24 PM
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I just about sprayed my snickers bar all over my monitor.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:26 PM
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I just about sprayed my snickers bar all over my monitor.

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LOL how the [censored] would you do that?!?!?
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Bartolo Colon Wins AL Cy Young

Santana's stats >>> Colon's.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:37 PM
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Bartolo Colon Wins AL Cy Young

I made a post about Santana's superior stats a month ago, and will repeat some of it here.

Let's compare Santana and Colon:

Wins: Santana 16, Colon 21
Losses: Santana 7, Colon 8
CG: Santana 3, Colon 2
Shutouts: Santana 2, Colon 0
IP: Santana 231.2, Colon 222.2
ERA: Santana 2.97, Colon 3.48
WHIP: Santana 0.97, Colon 1.16
BAA: Santana .210, Colon .254
K: Santana 238, Colon 157
BB: Santana 45, Colon 43
K/BB: Santana 5.29, Colon 3.65
H: Santana 180, Colon 215
HR: Santana 22, Colon 26
QS: Santana 24, Colon 21

The only significant category Colon beats Santana in is wins (and walks). How can you justify giving Cy Young to a pitcher who is clearly outmatched? Because he won 5 more games? Six times this year, Santana went at least 7 innings and gave up 2 runs or fewer, and received a ND or L. Blame his terrible team for lack of run support. Santana's run support was 4.70, Colon's 6.02. Don't fault the pitcher for putting his team in a much better position to get wins.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:45 PM
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It baffles me how baseball writers know SO LITTLE about the sport they cover!

I get mad every time I think about baseball.
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