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11-03-2005, 04:46 PM
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Re: 88 playing against no overcards
Yep, that about sums up the argument I was expecting. Unfortunately, against random blind hands, there are very few cards that will increase our pot equity enough to warrant waiting for the turn to raise. We already have over 50% pot equity against two players. Raise the flop for value.
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#2
11-03-2005, 04:49 PM
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Re: 88 playing against no overcards
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We already have over 50% pot equity against two players. [/ QUOTE ] Wow that really surprises me. How did you derive that figure?
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#3
11-03-2005, 04:51 PM
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Re: 88 playing against no overcards
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[ QUOTE ] We already have over 50% pot equity against two players. [/ QUOTE ] Wow that really surprises me. How did you derive that figure? [/ QUOTE ] I'm too lazy to do math, I Pokerstove'd it.
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#4
11-03-2005, 04:54 PM
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Re: 88 playing against no overcards
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] We already have over 50% pot equity against two players. [/ QUOTE ] Wow that really surprises me. How did you derive that figure? [/ QUOTE ] I'm too lazy to do math, I Pokerstove'd it. [/ QUOTE ] Did you actually put them on a range of hands or did you just hit the "random" button? Not saying we don't have alot of equity here, I'm just trying to prevent a bad habit forming of not putting opponnents on a range of hands
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#5
11-03-2005, 04:56 PM
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Re: 88 playing against no overcards
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Not saying we don't have alot of equity here, I'm just trying to prevent a bad habit forming of not putting opponnents on a range of hands [/ QUOTE ] I put the SB on a range of decent hands to complete the SB with. I put BB on random hands considering he got a free play from the BB.
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#6
11-03-2005, 05:05 PM
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Re: 88 playing against no overcards
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I put the SB on a range of decent hands to complete the SB with. I put BB on random hands considering he got a free play from the BB. [/ QUOTE ] Good point about the BB getting a free play. But doesn't that the fact that the SB bet and the BB called mean random/semi-random holdings are a little less likely? Overall though when you put it that way I think we've got enough equity to raise.
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#7
11-03-2005, 05:10 PM
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Re: 88 playing against no overcards
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But doesn't that the fact that the SB bet and the BB called mean random/semi-random holdings are a little less likely? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think it does. I think these players are capable of betting/calling with as little as a pair, an overcard, a gut shot straight draw, etc. I believe there is a large range of hands SB and BB could have at this time.
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