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12-29-2005, 01:02 PM
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Re: AKs calls big raise and keeps getting called down??
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10 minutes at table, no reads, and this hand comes up: Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB :#A500AF(villain)/ (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> <font color="#C00000">BB :#A500AF(villain)/ ($25)</font> UTG ($15.75) MP ($18.05) Button ($49.20) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.40)</font> Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.10. UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $1.4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB :#A500AF(villain)/ raises to $4.25</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, Button folds, Hero calls $3. Flop: ($9.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, villain calls $2. Turn: ($13.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, villain calls $3. River: ($19.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">villain raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $9.90 (All-In). Final Pot: $49.65 Your comments on flop, turn and river please. if you would call the river, please state why. thanks from a struggler in the trenches [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Horrible bets on the flop & turn. [/ QUOTE ] My preflop raise is about 4 x bb + 1 bb per limper. Isn't that about right? Yesterday i had the identical hand and was betting into pocket AA, so i was a bit gun shy here. Should i have been after the huge raise? What do you put him on?? [/ QUOTE ] Grunch isn't criticizing your preflop bet. He's (correctly) saying that your weak ass $2 bet into an almost $10 pot sucked. BET THE POT, or 2/3 of it minimum if you're going to bet. If he's got 78, you're gift wrapping his draw. You let him hit his kicker on the river by betting like a pussy. He had AT, no? 
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#2
12-29-2005, 01:18 PM
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Re: AKs calls big raise and keeps getting called down??
What are you doing with those flop and turn bets?? Horrible is the only word. Like others have said make it pot sized or close to it on the flop.
Im going to take a wild stab and say that if you did that he wouldnt have outdrawn you with 10s?
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12-29-2005, 01:30 PM
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Re: AKs calls big raise and keeps getting called down??
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[ QUOTE ] 10 minutes at table, no reads, and this hand comes up: Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB :#A500AF(villain)/ (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> <font color="#C00000">BB :#A500AF(villain)/ ($25)</font> UTG ($15.75) MP ($18.05) Button ($49.20) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.40)</font> Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.10. UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $1.4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB :#A500AF(villain)/ raises to $4.25</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, Button folds, Hero calls $3. Flop: ($9.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, villain calls $2. Turn: ($13.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, villain calls $3. River: ($19.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">villain raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $9.90 (All-In). Final Pot: $49.65 Your comments on flop, turn and river please. if you would call the river, please state why. thanks from a struggler in the trenches [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Horrible bets on the flop & turn. [/ QUOTE ] My preflop raise is about 4 x bb + 1 bb per limper. Isn't that about right? Yesterday i had the identical hand and was betting into pocket AA, so i was a bit gun shy here. Should i have been after the huge raise? What do you put him on?? [/ QUOTE ] Grunch isn't criticizing your preflop bet. He's (correctly) saying that your weak ass $2 bet into an almost $10 pot sucked. BET THE POT, or 2/3 of it minimum if you're going to bet. If he's got 78, you're gift wrapping his draw. You let him hit his kicker on the river by betting like a pussy. He had AT, no? [/ QUOTE ] The flop bet and the turn bet were both weak. No argument. I was leading weakly to see if he would come over the top of me in which case i might fold?? What the heck was he raising so much with?? Why isn't he betting into me now if his hand is so strong?? Lets assume i bet the flop for $8. He calls. Now what? (results of the hand soon.)
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