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Old 11-30-2005, 09:33 PM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Default A preflop question....

You're in the SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

3 limpers, a raise, followed by a cold call by the button

Your action, call or fold or hell why not raise? I can see a case for any of them....

Table is a typical mix of .5/1 players, original raise came from a decent player.
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: A preflop question....

I think we're calling. We don't want to force this HU between you and the other guy OOP.
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: A preflop question....

The other thread has proven conclusively how much i suck at preflop, but i like calling best.

Folding sucks in what is going to be a big pot when we have a hand that plays well multiway.

3-betting sucks with a hand that may be dominated and that we're going to have to play OOP.

Calling is juuuust right.

(And obviously reads can push this towards a raise (when villain is a LAG) or a fold (when villain is a rock).)
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: A preflop question....

I did end up calling on the hand but never have I faced such a waiver in my decision

My initial thought was "call... I'm too loose in the small blind adn probably dominated, I'm gonna fold... but I could easily flop a nice draw in a big pot and my ace still MIGHT be ok.... well hell why don't I raise?... na just call"
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: A preflop question....

Well, as Phil Gordon says, "Only if you're not sure should you call." That line of thinking sounds pretty unsure [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

This situation seems as good as any for the ol' "folding sucks, raising sucks, guess i should call" philosophy.
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: A preflop question....

Call - I don't think it's that close.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: A preflop question....

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Call - I don't think it's that close.

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reasonable action hand, but you are out of position. Raising is out of the question here. However, since it IS a reasonable action hand, I don't think you can fold.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: A preflop question....

I call here instead of raise because there's a good chance I'm dominated by the raiser and I'm in poor position here after the flop. I like the call due to the suited possibilities, the discount because I'm in the small blind and the solid kicker.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: A preflop question....

i'm calling so much here, ATs is a no brainer. i call 86s, probably 75s.
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Old 12-01-2005, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: A preflop question....

Call and hope for a good flop. I would probably get away from the hand if all I get is a pair of aces on the flop. May be dominated but it depends on the action post flop.
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