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Low PP + Gutshot then 1card OESD: I wanted to bet the turn.
I have no idea what the limp-reraise from MP2 indicates. I'd played about 30 hands with him and he was a 30/6/1. It seemed like an annoyance/tilt type raise to me as opposed to a thought out line. Button was 26/2/1 so I don't think MP2 is counting on a raise when he limps. I bet the river hoping to a call from ace-high. Also, if there hadn't been a limper behind I would have 3-bet preflop.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Beset is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Beset calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls, Beset calls. Flop: (12 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, Beset checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds, Beset calls. Turn: (7.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Beset checks, MP2 checks, Button checks. River: (7.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Beset bets</font>, MP2 folds, Button folds. Final Pot: 8.50 BB |
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Re: Low PP + Gutshot then 1card OESD: I wanted to bet the turn.
I think betting the turn here is bad.
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Re: Low PP + Gutshot then 1card OESD: I wanted to bet the turn.
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I think betting the turn here is bad. [/ QUOTE ] +1 Looks good to me. |
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Re: Low PP + Gutshot then 1card OESD: I wanted to bet the turn.
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Also, if there hadn't been a limper behind I would have 3-bet preflop. [/ QUOTE ] This is especially a bad idea at 2/4 and similar limits, and something I wouldn't get in the habit of doing. Generally 3-betting smallish pocket pairs from the blinds is an expensive habit, though there are opponents I will do it against, I think there are better lines given your relative lack of preflop equity with a hand like 44. Rob |
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Re: Low PP + Gutshot then 1card OESD: I wanted to bet the turn.
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[ QUOTE ] Also, if there hadn't been a limper behind I would have 3-bet preflop. [/ QUOTE ] This is especially a bad idea at 2/4 and similar limits, and something I wouldn't get in the habit of doing. Generally 3-betting smallish pocket pairs from the blinds is an expensive habit, though there are opponents I will do it against, I think there are better lines given your relative lack of preflop equity with a hand like 44. Rob [/ QUOTE ] I just noticed there is no section in SSHE on playing like an aggro nutjob versus button steals. Tightening up in the blinds now and I think its going to lower my variance big time and save a lot of bets. |
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Re: Low PP + Gutshot then 1card OESD: I wanted to bet the turn.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Also, if there hadn't been a limper behind I would have 3-bet preflop. [/ QUOTE ] This is especially a bad idea at 2/4 and similar limits, and something I wouldn't get in the habit of doing. Generally 3-betting smallish pocket pairs from the blinds is an expensive habit, though there are opponents I will do it against, I think there are better lines given your relative lack of preflop equity with a hand like 44. Rob [/ QUOTE ] I just noticed there is no section in SSHE on playing like an aggro nutjob versus button steals. Tightening up in the blinds now and I think its going to lower my variance big time and save a lot of bets. [/ QUOTE ] With one limper in it is unlikely that the button's raise is just an out and out steal attempt. He probably has a little something here. Another good reason to just call these position raises vs 3-betting is it gives you the chance to check/raise a good flop and lead the turn. |
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Re: Low PP + Gutshot then 1card OESD: I wanted to bet the turn.
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I just noticed there is no section in SSHE on playing like an aggro nutjob versus button steals. Tightening up in the blinds now and I think its going to lower my variance big time and save a lot of bets. [/ QUOTE ] "Steals" are often just raises with pretty solid hands that they happened to pick up in position. I wait until I see evidence that he's a stealer before considering any sort of aggro blind defense. Remember that players at these levels are generally too passive. |
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Re: Low PP + Gutshot then 1card OESD: I wanted to bet the turn.
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[ QUOTE ] I just noticed there is no section in SSHE on playing like an aggro nutjob versus button steals. Tightening up in the blinds now and I think its going to lower my variance big time and save a lot of bets. [/ QUOTE ] "Steals" are often just raises with pretty solid hands that they happened to pick up in position. I wait until I see evidence that he's a stealer before considering any sort of aggro blind defense. Remember that players at these levels are generally too passive. [/ QUOTE ] So given the passivity, knowing that it will be a 3-handed pot, is it even worth calling with 22-66 in the BB with one mp limper and a button raise if it's just for set value? |
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Re: Low PP + Gutshot then 1card OESD: I wanted to bet the turn.
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So given the passivity, knowing that it will be a 3-handed pot, is it even worth calling with 22-66 in the BB with one mp limper and a button raise if it's just for set value? [/ QUOTE ] preflop you're getting 7:1 on a call, and you're about 9:1 to flop a set and win. With implied odds this is an easy call pf from the BB |
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Re: Low PP + Gutshot then 1card OESD: I wanted to bet the turn.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I just noticed there is no section in SSHE on playing like an aggro nutjob versus button steals. Tightening up in the blinds now and I think its going to lower my variance big time and save a lot of bets. [/ QUOTE ] "Steals" are often just raises with pretty solid hands that they happened to pick up in position. I wait until I see evidence that he's a stealer before considering any sort of aggro blind defense. Remember that players at these levels are generally too passive. [/ QUOTE ] So given the passivity, knowing that it will be a 3-handed pot, is it even worth calling with 22-66 in the BB with one mp limper and a button raise if it's just for set value? [/ QUOTE ] Yes |
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