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Old 07-01-2005, 01:55 PM
Hybrid_11 Hybrid_11 is offline
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Default Re: How\'s my line? AQo

Its not about being comfortable if a or q comes its the hundreds of redraws even if he does hit
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: How\'s my line? AQo

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My thought was that with 6 limpers (including myself), I could represent that the flop *did* hit me, and hope to fold out some overcards.

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You might fold out a King or Jack and that's good. You also could fold out a weaker Ace or Queen - I'm not so sure that this would be good. We want dominated hands drawing thin/dead in the pot paying us off. Furthermore, since you didn't hit the flop - it's likely on that coordinated board that someone else did and getting raised (or slowplayed) is going to likely cause you to dump some BBs.

I don't think a flop bet gains you enough equity to be correct on this flop.

Of course - you should've never been in this situation had you made the correct decision PF and raised.
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: How\'s my line? AQo

Great, thanks Crunchy.
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: How\'s my line? AQo

In these low limit games playres are not going that complex to put you on a suited connector to make that bet positive ev. your giving players way to much credit to make smart folds.
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:01 PM
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Your giving players way to much credit to make smart folds.

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That is likely true.
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:06 PM
Dan Rutter Dan Rutter is offline
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Default Re: How\'s my line? AQo

Even if you are representing that hand (middle suited connector), the fact is that you will not get this large field to fold to your bluff. Someone will have something, and/or there will be numerous draws out there that will call. You will not know where you are in the hand Also, in this multihanded pot there will likely be a high percentage of your opponents that will not be thinking of what you are representing. You do have some overcards but once you hit one you still cannot think your hand is really strong. First it is highly probable that the one pair hand is not good at the moment, second there are likely numerous draws out there with a flop like this that will make it so you may not be the favorite to win the hand over the entire field. This thinking is not weak/tight, it is correct.
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:06 PM
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In these low limit games playres are not going that complex to put you on a suited connector to make that bet positive ev. your giving players way to much credit to make smart folds.

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I'm unclear as to whether your agreeing or disagreeing with me, what you're agreeing or disagreeing with or whether you're just restating what I posted?!? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: How\'s my line? AQo

that last post was towards nika who said he was hoping to represent a suited connector. It is hopeless to try and represent anything in these games especially something like that.
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Old 07-01-2005, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: How\'s my line? AQo

raise preflop, then the hand plays different

as it happened, im checking this flop to see what happens behind me and hopefully getting a free card. turn and river are fine.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: How\'s my line? AQo

Raise Preflop
Check the flop- This flop missed you totally and is way to coordinated.
Bet the turn and river
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