AK early - 2 hands ($11)

Two very different hands. First one strange, second more standard. Advice?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 (t755)
MP1 (t910)
MP2 (t805)
MP3 (t1615)
CO (t755)
Button (t555)
SB (t935)
BB (t285)
Hero (t800)
UTG+1 (t585)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t70</font>, UTG+1 calls t70, UTG+2 calls t70, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t70, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t60, BB calls t55.

Flop: (t417.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB raises [t230] , Hero...

Do I just muck this, assuming that with so many callers I'm beat by AJ/JJ+ here? Was really strange, I don't usually get more than 2 callers there.



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

SB (t725)
BB (t785)
UTG (t785)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t770)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t1010)
Hero (t800)
Button (t725)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t85</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t165.

Flop: (t555) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, Hero...

Do I push here and just take the beating if I'm up against AT/TT+, or do I just check/fold? Am I overplaying AK with my re-raise? Should pre-flop be push/call, not raise?

Thanks,
Will

[liucipher]

The first should be an easy fold. Sucked that you got that much action preflop, but there's not much you can do w/ that flop.

I'd push the second one. I'm not in love w/ it, because it a lot of pocket pairs are going to like that flop and call your "desperatish bet" but not much you can do.

Second hand is a very easy bet and fold if raised.

No reason to gamble that early in the tourney.

[kevkev60614]

First is an easy fold.

I don't think you're overplaying AKs in the second. I'd push that flop.

First hand is an instant fold. You shouldn't be considering calling/pushing with someone betting into you and this many people in the hand.

Villian's action in the second hand is how a lot of bad people play low/middle pairs. They check the flop to the raiser to induce a bluff or a Cbet, but they aren't folding because there are all low cards on the flop. I think you should've just called his raise preflop and played poker on the flop. Because you did reraise so huge, and the pot is so big, I suppose a push here isn't that bad. You'll spike and ace or king about 25% of the time anyway when he calls your "obvious bluff" with his 6s.

[mosdef]

Yikes. Call preflop on the second hand. You shouldn't feel so desperate to isolate with AK that you raise 250 with a stack of 800. That's crazy.