vs 2p2er - Page 3

TStoneMBD · #1 11-30-2005, 01:11 PM

im not used to facing limp reraises but if i was the SB i think i would just call preflop with AA depending on who the BB is. i dont really see a reason to fold him out of the pot and slowplaying in this spot is a good way to trap the limpreraiser for alot of bets postflop.

if the twoplustwoer in this hand thinks like i do (which im not sure is correct) then his cap to me means hell have QQ most of the time with JJ as often as AA. he could also have the other 2 KK or of course he could have AK. i think AK is firing all 3 streets especially if he doesnt give you credit for a real hand with your limp reraise.

therefore i like calling down.

Chris Daddy Cool · #2 11-30-2005, 05:38 PM

i dunno about folding the flop but i think the river is probably a fold.

and don't be mad he capped your limpreraise with QQ. its not like he knew who you were, probably thought you were some typical party guy full of it.

CanKid · #3 11-30-2005, 06:16 PM

Shouldn't villain have found a check raise somewhere? Just curious.

I like how you played this.

golferbrent · #4 12-01-2005, 06:29 PM

Was this hand online?

If it was online I think I would raise the river... if just a live hand then I like your line. Its a classic WA/WB situation. I know you said the SB is a 2p2'r and isn't aware you are, but do you have any history with him?

Does he think you are full of sh_it or what? Many times a player will think a limp reraise is bunk until you play back at them. Without you raising here you haven't demonstrated that you actually have a hand and are not full of it.

I might put in a raise on end here for value b/c now A high is stuck definitely paying you off. Plus you said the player was very aggressive and as such could be overplaying his hand here. Just my initial thoughts.

shutupndeal · #5 12-01-2005, 07:18 PM

whoever said or had this "quote"...........no one thinks there is any value in raising the river like a donk pushing villain off an ace split?

The answer is a resounding "NO"

golferbrent · #6 12-02-2005, 04:39 AM

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whoever said or had this "quote"...........no one thinks there is any value in raising the river like a donk pushing villain off an ace split?

The answer is a resounding "NO"

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Why is there no value in making it look like you are trying to push someone else off A high when they put you on at best A high? I want to hear gamblers range for the hand... as well I also want to know whether this was an online hand or not.

In addition, I think that my statement about the typical opinion of a limp reraise line is it is a player who is full of it, and unless you play your hand like you have something... then how is the SB in this situation going to think anything else?

In addition to that, why are we simply shutting down with K-K against a 2p2'r with a Q high flop? Especially when the 2p2'r in question has no idea we are a 2p2'r as well and also has no idea we know he is a 2p2'r? If someone wants to explain that I am all ears!

IMO if someone posted this and said... I limp reraised with K-K and then called down a preflop capper when the board came Q high, he would get crucified. Why should the fact that the player is a known 2p2'r make a great deal of difference when the player has no knowledge of our level of knowledge?