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Old 12-28-2005, 09:53 PM
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10/20 6max 5 handed

I raise A9o utg, small blind (60/7/1.0) calls. I don't have any notes on this player.

Flop JJ5r
Check, I bet, call.

Turn JJ5Ar
Check, I check behind

River JJ5A8
Bet, I call.
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:56 PM
Zele Zele is offline
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I'd definitely bet the turn against this LP unknown. He'll call you with enough crap you have beat to more than compensate for the times you have to pay off trips.
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:30 PM
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I bet this turn everytime because my opponents (especially the (60/7/1.0) varitey) peel with all sorts of garbage on this flop.
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:40 PM
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I bet this turn everytime because my opponents (especially the (60/7/1.0) varitey) peel with all sorts of garbage on this flop.

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Yes. If they did peel the flop with garbage why not give them a chance to pair the river and/or take a stab when they are drawing dead?

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Old 12-28-2005, 11:01 PM
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is raising the river and folding to a 3 bet no good here?
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:02 PM
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I bet this turn everytime because my opponents (especially the (60/7/1.0) varitey) peel with all sorts of garbage on this flop.

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Yes. If they did peel the flop with garbage why not give them a chance to pair the river and/or take a stab when they are drawing dead?

Thanks,
efficacy

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Problem is you can't do this with regularity because your opponents won't

a. bluff the river when you check behind because they know you'll be calling with so many hands.

b. fold when you bet this turn with hands like QJ where you'd really like a fold.

Poker is much easier when you bet your good hands and figure [censored] out from there.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:03 PM
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is raising the river and folding to a 3 bet no good here?

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I considered that line as well. I think this is better than just calling.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:05 PM
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Problem is you can't do this with regularity because your opponents won't

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b. fold when you bet this turn with hands like QJ where you'd really like a fold.

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Is this a typo? I don't think anyone would ever fold QJ if I bet the turn... most likely they'd be C/R'ing me.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:16 PM
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i like it especially if he will bluff a missed draw.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:22 PM
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i like it especially if he will bluff a missed draw.

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That's the thing though... there was really no draw out there so I fealt my hand was either WA or WB. There was no way a free card would hurt me, other than possibly tripping up a small pocket pair.
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