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Old 05-29-2005, 03:52 AM
wuwei wuwei is offline
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Default Re: Math is stupid

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If you push, you need a FE of 25% to make this play better than folding.

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Well, it appears you're assuming hero is a 60/40 favorite over the range of hands he's raising/calling with here (which seems reasonable).

I want to argue that you have a bit more than 25% FE against a min raiser, but I don't have anything too pursuasive to say on that front. Just a feeling. After looking at these numbers, none of these options looks too appealing. Bleh...

The point made by another poster about his range of pushing hands v. his range of calling hands is important, although hard to really quantify. But note that if he's min raising a lot of hands and only calling with the stronger hands that benefits us on two fronts because it means we have more FE and it means we're a more significant favorite to win once called.
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Old 05-27-2005, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: My First Hand Posting in the STT Forum!!1!

here is why I'm pushing:
out of the hands the button is raising, he's only going to call with the ones that you have dominated. If he's trying to steal with something like Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] hes probably dumping it, but if he has a shiny K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] he's calling, which is fine.
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Old 05-27-2005, 01:57 AM
GrekeHaus GrekeHaus is offline
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Default Re: My First Hand Posting in the STT Forum!!1!

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here is why I'm pushing:
out of the hands the button is raising, he's only going to call with the ones that you have dominated. If he's trying to steal with something like Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] hes probably dumping it, but if he has a shiny K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] he's calling, which is fine.

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He'd probably also call with any pair, which would be quite bad for us. When I did the math, I put the villain on A7+, any pair or any broadway and AK was a 62% favorite.
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Old 05-27-2005, 07:25 AM
johnnybeef johnnybeef is offline
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Default Re: My First Hand Posting in the STT Forum!!1!

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The games is Party 22. Villain has been somewhat tight, but has been min-raising to steal the blinds a moderate amount.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter

UTG (t520)
Button (t2917)
Hero (t1825)
BB (t2738)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t600</font>, Hero ???

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i find that when someone is a frequent minraiser, pushes tend to be very effective in this situation.

edit: i can also gaurantee it will be the last time he minraises your blind also
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