QQ utg check raised by 2

benkath1 · #1 07-10-2005, 03:17 AM

No solid reads here. CO is a loose fish playing about 80%, SB is a 28 %er who doesn't raise much preflop. BB is quite tight only playing 12%. I haven't noticed anything special postflop.

I'm wondering If calling here is correct. I think my pot odds are close, but I'm thinking implied odds are tremendous. Getting check raised by 2 got me 95% sure of the flush.

I'm counting 10 outs and discounting 1.5 for the chance someone else has a set for a total of 8.5. How far off am I?

Does anybody fold this?

Thanks,
Ben

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, CO calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, CO calls, SB raises, BB 3-bets, Hero ????

JackThree · #2 07-10-2005, 03:32 AM

h0h0h0

beset7 · #3 07-10-2005, 04:02 AM

show this down

AdamL · #4 07-10-2005, 04:10 AM

I'd say call, fold the river unimproved if there is still a lot of action going on during the river.

Bodhi · #5 07-11-2005, 01:12 AM

That's insane. No way should the hero fold.

Hojglad · #6 07-10-2005, 04:22 AM

You would have to shove a gun in my mouth to make me fold this on the turn. Depending on how passive my opponents are here (it sure as hell looks like someone has a flush), I MIGHT consider folding on the river unimproved. I would have to have one hell of a read, though. I'm definitely showing it down for one bet.

bottomset · #7 07-10-2005, 04:40 AM

folding would be horrible
call and see the river

def. don't fold the river for 1bet UI

pryor15 · #8 07-10-2005, 04:27 AM

you have 10 outs to a cinch hand in a big and getting bigger pot. and it's possible you have the best hand right now. call.

Dave G. · #9 07-10-2005, 06:10 AM

Folding here would be terrible. Unthinkable. This would be a massive error. Hell, if I have 33 here, there's no way in hell I'm folding. Why are you discounting your outs in case someone has a set? You have... the best possible set.

Their check-raises could mean two pair, a lower set or even a donkishly played AA (possible from BB if he's that tight), all of which are drawing dead against you (well the set has 1 out). The flush might be out, but you've got plenty of outs to beat one.

Call the turn and call the river UI.

benkath1 · #10 07-10-2005, 10:39 AM

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Why are you discounting your outs in case someone has a set?

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Because I'm trying to improve my hand. If someone else flopped a set of 3's then they have 2 of my outs to improve. I know I have top set, but I also know I am behind a flush (95%) and need a boat to win.