Limping but not re-raising w/ AA

Ulysses · #1 07-25-2003, 01:06 PM

Pretty loose, mildly aggressive 15-30 game. Two aggressive players in middle and late position always come in with a raise. Average flop is seen 5 or 6 handed for two bets.

I get AA UTG. I limp, planning to re-raise. MP, as expected, raises. He's a terrible, terrible player. Surprisingly, everyone folds to the button (also a poor player), who cold-calls. Blinds fold (what the hell is going on here?) and I decide to just call.

Flop 2h 6c 8s

I check. MP bets. Button calls. I checkraise. Both call.

Turn (2h 6c 8s) Ah

I check. MP bets. Button calls. I checkraise. Both call.

River (2h 6c 8s Ah) Js

I bet. Both fold.

What do you think?

Dante · #2 07-25-2003, 01:40 PM

normally I think you can't really get away with multiple check-raises against somewhat aware (i.e. they're still breathing) players, but in this case I think it was well played - the flop checkraise looks like you made top pair or maybe a pair of 99 or TT. The check on the turn when the A comes just screams to be bet by MP after you check.

Dante

TJSWAN · #3 07-25-2003, 02:43 PM

Ulysses,

How terrible terrible and poor are these players? Had you three bet the flop here would they have a clue?

I think your pre-flop limp set up the double check-raise.
I don't know your opposition, but I'll say you beat a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] flush draw and a smaller set.

Tim

Nottom · #4 07-25-2003, 02:53 PM

What makes you possibly think someone out there has a set?

Ulysses · #5 07-25-2003, 02:53 PM

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I don't know your opposition, but I'll say you beat a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] flush draw and a smaller set.

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You're not serious, right?

rtrombone · #6 07-25-2003, 02:57 PM

I think I will almost always 3-bet unless it's going to be heads-up. Even then, I will 3-bet maybe half the time. I just worry that you will lose a bet if one of the two folds at the flop.

Post-flop you played it fine. Your opponents must have been truly horrible to play it the way they did. I'm not sure which way this cuts. If they're that bad, you may have been able to 3-bet pre-flop and still pull off two check-raises.

offTopic · #7 07-25-2003, 03:12 PM

I think he beat KQo and 55 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

bad beetz · #8 07-25-2003, 03:29 PM

you played it wrong, you should have goaded one of them into calling on the river.

other than that, I like it.

bad beetz · #9 07-25-2003, 03:30 PM

If I know that game, the heart flush and smaller set would have pumped that flop and turn so hard, Ulysses could have just watched. the set would never, never fold.

cferejohn · #10 07-25-2003, 04:22 PM

A smaller set? Why on earth would a smaller set fold on the river? Nothing about the way Ulysses played it really screamed AA. In fact, I'd probably put him on A8s and re-raise on the turn if I had a smaller set.