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Old 04-26-2005, 01:07 AM
11t 11t is offline
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Default Bubble hands

Another hand I would like peoples opinion on

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (5 handed) converter

MP (t904)
Button (t3387)
SB (t4439)
BB (t2910)
Hero (t1860)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero...</font>
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Old 04-26-2005, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: Bubble hands

Are you sure this is right? The chip totals come up to 13500.

In any case, I hate having to push here, since you're likely getting called, but I think you have to since the blinds are taking half your stack in the next two hands and you'll have no FE left.
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Old 04-26-2005, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: Bubble hands

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Are you sure this is right? The chip totals come up to 13500.

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There are 13,500 chips in play on any site that uses 9-handed tables and $1,500 starting stacks, Pokerstars being one of them.
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Old 04-26-2005, 01:37 AM
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To fold here is to forfeit.

You have the most FE right now against the blinds who have no need to cripple themselves heading to the bubble. You might even consider pushing any two right now.
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Old 04-26-2005, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: Bubble hands

FE = to the chance everyone will fold to you in the BB on the next hand. Push any two... call any two in the BB same difference.
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Old 04-26-2005, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: Bubble hands

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FE = to the chance everyone will fold to you in the BB on the next hand. Push any two... call any two in the BB same difference.

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Thanks! I hadn't thought about it that way. I guess in this case, Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is better than any two, and it's manlier to push?
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Old 04-26-2005, 02:11 AM
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FE = to the chance everyone will fold to you in the BB on the next hand. Push any two... call any two in the BB same difference.

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Thanks! I hadn't thought about it that way. I guess in this case, Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is better than any two, and it's manlier to push?

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Oh yeah Q8s will work. But you're kinda just screwed either way... you just get to pick the hole.
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Old 04-26-2005, 08:57 AM
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Are you sure this is right? The chip totals come up to 13500.

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There are 13,500 chips in play on any site that uses 9-handed tables and $1,500 starting stacks, Pokerstars being one of them.

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I forgot about the fact they were 9-handed. Been a while since I've played there...
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Old 04-26-2005, 08:59 AM
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FE = to the chance everyone will fold to you in the BB on the next hand. Push any two... call any two in the BB same difference.

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I think you're wrong here. I think there's 0% chance that it will be folded around with the blinds this high with any reasonable players, where you have at leave a &gt;0% chance that you pick up the blinds when you push.
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Old 04-26-2005, 11:20 AM
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What buy in was this? Hope its a turbo...600 blinds and over half the field is a tight game. That's tight for a turbo actually ("tight" or just a lot of back and forth wealth distribution).
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