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11-05-2005, 09:02 PM
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Failing to control the pot size. Did I make that mistake here?
I said I would post something worth while, this isn't it but it is something other than a post trying to recruit players.
This game was $2/5 blind 5 handed at the time. I was on the button with $2700 or so. The only other good player was UTG with $1500 or so. He was a good player that would open almost every pot but played well on the flop. UTG opened the pot for $20 as expected I looked down at 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] now I know the majority of you are going to say fold. Yes this is a clear fold most of the time. Here is my thinking. He has been picking up a lot of pots un-contested or with a big bet on the flop if someone called. I haven't been in a hand for some time. I think I can re-steal here and if I get called and hit my hand he won't see it and I may get him to bluff the flop. If he re-raises me I can get away from the hand for $70. I raised the pot to $70 and he hesitated for a second and called (it looked like call or fold not call or raise hesitation). The flop came down 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] . He led out with $100. What do I do? I'll post my thoughts shortly. 
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#2
11-05-2005, 09:06 PM
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Re: Failing to control the pot size. Did I make that mistake here?
Unless your opponent has a deuce and a 4, or pocket 4s, you have the best hand. You also are drawing to an open-ended straight flush draw. I'd ram and jam in this situation. On the flop, you are virtually unbeatable. The turn and river would most likely either improve you, give your opponents a hand that can't beat yours, or help neither of you. And if the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] comes, it's nirvana!
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#3
11-05-2005, 10:01 PM
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Re: Failing to control the pot size. Did I make that mistake here?
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Unless your opponent has a deuce and a 4, or pocket 4s, you have the best hand. [/ QUOTE ] Unless he has a 2 with any other card. There is no chance you have the best hand right now if your opponent also has a 2. I would still push here though.
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#4
11-08-2005, 01:07 AM
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Re: Failing to control the pot size. Did I make that mistake here?
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[ QUOTE ] Unless your opponent has a deuce and a 4, or pocket 4s, you have the best hand. [/ QUOTE ] Unless he has a 2 with any other card. There is no chance you have the best hand right now if your opponent also has a 2. I would still push here though. [/ QUOTE ] I don't see why everyone wants to shovel in $1500 against a v aggro but good postflop player.
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#5
11-08-2005, 03:16 AM
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Re: Failing to control the pot size. Did I make that mistake here?
I think it is far more deceptive to raise than to call her. It seems far more likely to me that the villain is betting out with something like a good overpair + flush draw or overpair+straight draw and that he is likely to go with you here if you raise it up.
The stacks are very deep so I can also see just calling the flop. That is not a great turn card though.
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#6
11-08-2005, 04:28 AM
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Re: Failing to control the pot size. Did I make that mistake here?
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I think it is far more deceptive to raise than to call her. It seems far more likely to me that the villain is betting out with something like a good overpair + flush draw or overpair+straight draw and that he is likely to go with you here if you raise it up. The stacks are very deep so I can also see just calling the flop. That is not a great turn card though. [/ QUOTE ] I think kyle saw me play multiple hands vs the guy, but he at least to me seemed really willing to play huge pots on the flop (no suprises there) but play turn/river a lot less aggro than his almost maniacal preflop/flop play.
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#7
11-06-2005, 01:33 AM
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Re: Failing to control the pot size. Did I make that mistake here?
You are getting just the right implied odds for a call here (2-fives, A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]), but I would give it up on the turn if I didn't make my draw.
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#8
11-06-2005, 06:29 AM
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Result ....... im an idiot
I was going to post the results of the hand but I think I may just kill myself.
I just got done pushing $800+ into a pot where I thought I had the nut straight and nut hand. Only to find out that I had the nut straight wrap. Word is 6,7,8,10 dosen't make a straight on a K,9,5,4 board. Don't play big bet poker when you need sleep no matter how good the game is. Thats the only thing I came away with tonight. Side note: There is a $2-5 PLO game at Wynn, it's a good game lots of action. If your lucky you may get doubled up by some idiot that cant read his own hand.
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#9
11-06-2005, 10:32 AM
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Re: Failing to control the pot size. Did I make that mistake here?
i'm almost certain you have the best hand but I would call as i feel raising lets all of the worse hands he's betting off the hook. Feel's like he has AAxx and didn't wan't to reraise out of position as you both had big stacks. You have position so why not use it and try to outplay him on the later streets.
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#10
11-06-2005, 03:56 PM
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Re: Failing to control the pot size. Did I make that mistake here?
The only issue I have with calling here is that he may slow down on the turn if he has absolutely nothing. I could easily see a solid player doing with with AAxx hoping you are overplaying KK or possible QQ. If you raise, you may be able to stack him if he has a far weaker hand than yours and can't get off his read.
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