99 .25-.50 Scary Turn Bet

mmbapmashida · #1 10-17-2005, 10:59 PM

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (11.40 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (7.70 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, MP3 folds, UTG folds, Hero calls.

River: (11.70 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.70 BB

Comments on all streets appreciated. I felt like he had the flush on the turn, but the pot was too big for me to let go because I also thought it was possible he was trying to use the spade as a scare, or semi-bluffing with the flush draw + 2 overs.

Oh, and villain is new to the table but had played his first 6 hands all to the flop at least.

tyler_cracker · #2 10-17-2005, 11:11 PM

Any reads?

I 3-bet preflop most of the time.

The turn raise could mean a lot of things, as you noted, but unless this is exactly a semi-bluff with spades + overs, your 1 pair is now behind. I don't think i can fold the turn, though.

That river sucks. I'm tempted to make a crying call getting almost 12:1, but unless Villain is insane, you should probably fold. I would, however, call a non-spade, non-ace river.

NateDog · #3 10-17-2005, 11:27 PM

I really don't like the CC pre-flop. There are situations that it is the right play, but not here IMO.

I'm suspicious of UTG+1's flop check. This board probably didn't hit anyone (but I haven't played this level in a while, so it may have). I really wish he woulda bet it, so we could raise. Meh, flop bet is good.

The turn card aslo completes a straight draw, not just the flush. Without a read on the villain, I give him some credit for one of the made hands he is represnting. (2 pr, straight, flush with the flush being most likely). If hero rivers a 9, he can check/call.

River card doesn't help you, and I don't think you are good 1 in 12 times here.

Pylos · #4 10-17-2005, 11:37 PM

I 3-bet this in this position with reads considered. However, even against an unknown table here I think I would 3-bet it out.

That turn card is scary, considering it completes a flush draw and some curious straight draws, which tend to happen at this level. I would say most of the time I would check or check/raise this turn to get some information.

River does nothing for you, and people love holding A-rag at .25/.50 all day until it magically appears. A good percentage of the time your not ahead even if you hit your 9, so I would say watch any aggression on the turn or river here, especially from people who are just waking up.

hobbsmann · #5 10-18-2005, 02:48 AM

3-bet preflop.