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Play a Hand With the Masters #2 Flop II
This is part three on our second "Play a Hand with the Masters". If you haven't already read and contributed to Part One and Part Two you should do so first.
Setup $100+9 Party Poker MTT Blinds 50/100 Hero is Gigabet No strong read on villain Stacks Hero: t2670 Villain: t2915 Pre-Flop Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG folds. Hero raises to t275. All fold to BB who calls. Flop Pot: t600 Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] BB checks. Hero bets t300. After thinking awhile (or at least taking some time), villain raises to t600. Action is on the hero. What range of hands do you put the villain on now? Which ties into the question of what do you make of his mini-raise? Do you fold, call, or raise? If you raise, to what amount? Assuming you don't fold what's your plan for the rest of the hand (or how has your plan changed since your last response)? |
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Re: Play a Hand With the Masters #2 Flop II
Hmmm..
i'm thinking he'd fold to a push, and the board isn't that scary.. i say call and raise his turn bet (assuming he makes one) as for a hand, A7s+, KQ, 88+. |
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Hmmm.. i'm thinking he'd fold to a push, and the board isn't that scary.. i say call and raise his turn bet (assuming he makes one) as for a hand, A7s+, KQ, 88+. [/ QUOTE ] Wow did I think about this one differently. I really hate seeing the turn with this hand, and I think villain's range is very different. |
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[ QUOTE ] Hmmm.. i'm thinking he'd fold to a push, and the board isn't that scary.. i say call and raise his turn bet (assuming he makes one) as for a hand, A7s+, KQ, 88+. [/ QUOTE ] Wow did I think about this one differently. I really hate seeing the turn with this hand, and I think villain's range is very different. [/ QUOTE ] what range do you put him on that is scared of a turn card? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hmmm.. i'm thinking he'd fold to a push, and the board isn't that scary.. i say call and raise his turn bet (assuming he makes one) as for a hand, A7s+, KQ, 88+. [/ QUOTE ] Wow did I think about this one differently. I really hate seeing the turn with this hand, and I think villain's range is very different. [/ QUOTE ] what range do you put him on that is scared of a turn card? [/ QUOTE ] I'm scared of a turn card. I really hate calling here, but given who's disagreeing with me. I'll probably crunch numbers on this at some point. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hmmm.. i'm thinking he'd fold to a push, and the board isn't that scary.. i say call and raise his turn bet (assuming he makes one) as for a hand, A7s+, KQ, 88+. [/ QUOTE ] Wow did I think about this one differently. I really hate seeing the turn with this hand, and I think villain's range is very different. [/ QUOTE ] what range do you put him on that is scared of a turn card? [/ QUOTE ] I'm scared of a turn card. I really hate calling here, but given who's disagreeing with me. I'll probably crunch numbers on this at some point. [/ QUOTE ] i understand, i mean what range of hands do you put him on that makes you scared of a turn card? there are 11 possible cards that can come on the turn that will either kill your action or your hand. A scare card will only come like 25% of the time. I think that the risk is worth him PC'ing himself when he's drawing dead on the blank turn. |
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Re: Play a Hand With the Masters #2 Flop II
Damn. Am I the only one who thinks that minraising 2+2ers is +EV with just about every hand? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Assuming the minraise wants to get called, The big question is: What hands in villain's range want to get called? I think it's something like KK, AA, JJ, QT, AK, AJ, KJ, AQ, and throw in JT to represent a weird play. Our equity against this range is 51%. I thought we'd be much worse. Knowing this, I push even with a read that villain does this with a hand that wants a call. Since villain could also have minraised for information, and since most of the hands in his range have decent outs on us, I push. |
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He's not folding a better hand, and I dont want to give him a chance to get away from a hand like AQ or AT so I'm calling his flop bet and getting it in on the turn.
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Re: Play a Hand With the Masters #2 Flop II
I call and let him tie himself to the pot by betting out the turn. If a Q or T comes on the turn and he checks, I check behind and call a river bet. If a Q/T comes on the turn and he bets into me, I can base my decision on the size of his bet and possibly find a fold (more likely if a T comes than a Q)
If a blank comes on the turn and he bets into me I can obviously push. If he checks, I would bet 1k-1300 or so. |
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I call and let him tie himself to the pot by betting out the turn. If a Q or T comes on the turn and he checks, I check behind and call a river bet. If a Q/T comes on the turn and he bets into me, I can base my decision on the size of his bet and possibly find a fold (more likely if a T comes than a Q) [/ QUOTE ] I like this line, plus one more fun situation. If a scare card turns, and he checks the turn (you check behind) and checks the river, I push. I can't see a set or straight checking both of those to you, but almost all aces and all twopair hands will. Those hands will almost certainly give you a suspicious river lookup, not to mention that they are his most likely holdings. Everett |
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